Deer shot with a rifle, went down, got up 2 hours later

[jmeghunts]

The ballistic bullet is the problem. I speak from personal experience using those bullets in my .260.

He nerds to change to ammo that uses either a Barnes bullet or Nosler Partition.

I agree with this. Ballistic Tips will blow up and not do what they are supposed to do sometimes. Bonded and partition bullets are the way to go. Weight retention and wound channel are the goal.

[elkoholic]

This is why i do not believe in shooting any animal anywhere but the lungs or heart. NO animal can live with out lungs. He or she may go a little bit, but they will bleed a lot and will die. I wish people would quite worrying about busting up the meat. If you shoot them behind the shoulder in the lungs, you won't destroy any meat and you will have LDP all day long.

Sorry for the rant, but I find it funny when people complain about not finding a dead deer when they don't shoot it in the vitals. If you wanted to be a sniper join the military or SWAT team. Lungs people, nothing can live without lungs!!!!

[brrdnk]

The shot was ok the bullit choice was not. Hate those dang ballistic tips.

[elkoholic]

No, shot placement was bad. You can kill a deer with a .22 if you shoot it in the lungs. I shot an elk in Jaunuary this year, that was 500 yards away with a .25-06 with a 120grain bullet. I shot her behind the shoulder and she went 10 yards, fell over and died. The weapon and bullet were fine, shot placement was poor

[LWC]

I shot a doe broadside behind the shoulder at 75 yards last weekend with 165 balistic tip out of a 30-06. Bullet did not exit and not a drop of blood. Looked around for blood about 20 mins before stumbling over the deer about 25 yards from where she was shot. I have used bt's for years with good success. Usually a hole you can stick your fist in. But with this experience and all these stories, I may find a tougher bullet. I need an exit hole and a blood trail.
Maybe Nosler has changed up their construction?

[culebuck]

The deer should make it unless he is to run down from rut. My wife shot one the same way and got up after a hour.

[trophy8]

Great advice for people who can't shoot. A bigger gun and a tougher bullet will make up for poor shot placement. Not.

Yes it does. To a point. I hate ballistic tips. Used to shoot them in my 270 wsm and never liked how little they penetrated.

You guys gotta quit askin a bunch of bowhunters rifle questions lol. Yes there is a lot of knowledge here. Then you have the guys who THINK they know it all with egos the size of Texas lol.
Your buddys shot placement was off. It happens. I shoot deer in the head and neck on occasion so I'm not one to judge on that. But it's always comical to read some "advice" guys give on here

And remember!! If it offends you, it applies to you. Merry Christmas!!

[krisw]

I wont argue the point about not having an exit wound. I dont know that I've seen a big exit wound from my shots. They expand/fragment big time. I use them because all the energy from the round is transferred to the deer. I wouldnt shoot anything dangerous, thick skinned, or something really big. But as of now, deer sized animals and down are fine.

[PondPopper]

Look for remains later. A deer shot in the neck will die of infection. In hot weather it will happen sooner than in cold weather.Change to a bullet that is not designed to fragment. The 260 is plenty of gun for whitetail with the right bullet.

[M16]

Change to a bullet that is not designed to fragment.

Most hunting bullets aren't designed to fragment. They are designed to mushroom. Rarely does a bullet fail due to construction on a neck shot. It it almost always bullet placement.

[PondPopper]

Most hunting bullets aren't designed to fragment. They are designed to mushroom. Rarely does a bullet fail due to construction on a neck shot. It it almost always bullet placement.

I'm glad you like them. I don't. It's nothing more than a hollow point.
I would never hunt big game with a hollow point.

[Simple Man]

The ballistic bullet is the problem. I speak from personal experience using those bullets in my .260.

He nerds to change to ammo that uses either a Barnes bullet or Nosler Partition.

Agree x100

I've shot ballistic tips in my 25-06 the past few years. 3 deer out of 4 in the last 2 years didn't have any blood trail. One doe I shot at 230 yards and only found her because I ranged and knew exactly how far away she was. I ended up finding her dead less than 10 yards away in some thick brush. I shot a buck last year that I only found after making circles 2 hours around where I saw him last. I was done with them after that and switched this year to Barnes triple shock bullets and have seen a big difference.

[trophy8]

Most hunting bullets aren't designed to fragment. They are designed to mushroom. Rarely does a bullet fail due to construction on a neck shot. It it almost always bullet placement.

BTs are designed to fragment upon solid impact.... They have their place. Prairie dogs. Coyotes. You get the point. But if you think they are designed to mushroom then you need to check again

[super_dave]

I was a winchester fail safe guy until the hornady sst came out theys a bad mamma jamma

[trophy8]

Really? How many jackets have you measured and what are those measurements?

http://www.bergerbullets.com/Products/J4%20Jackets.html

here is just a quick reference for you....i dont have the tools at the house to measure them to give you an exact answer, but the higher the caliber, the heavier the jacket, for weight retention. you should know that, of course depending on the bullets use, whether it is hunting or benchrest use....benchrest normally has a thicker jacket than a comparable hunting round..
jacket hardness is another factor but thats another story....

point being, you must first be a student before you can be a teacher and school someone....