JJ is a traditional bike builder in every sense of the word who can make a kickass bike that you wouldn't be affraid to show up on at a tuff biker bar. Paul Jr. on the other hand leads the pack in creativity and design with designs that he comes up with himself. If the plan was to all build a traditional street chopper then im sure Paul Jr. and JJ would have battled it out head to head. Paul Sr. in my opinion doesn't do a **** thing anymore but deligate to the kid on the computer and watch the outcome with a cop of coffee in his hand!
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostJesse James is a .... Man that has more talent and bigger bank account than most every person reading this!!
but I think you are not giving the green screen enough credit.
there are people on here that work with metal/weld/fabricate for a living on here that have done it for much longer than jesse has.
he can work with metal, and fabricate. I give that to him. I wouldnt say he is the best of anything though.
I gaurantee his bank is bigger than mine though. BUT, my wife is better looking the girls he messes around with.
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Originally posted by JMan View PostJJ is a traditional bike builder in every sense of the word who can make a kickass bike that you wouldn't be affraid to show up on at a tuff biker bar. Paul Jr. on the other hand leads the pack in creativity and design with designs that he comes up with himself. If the plan was to all build a traditional street chopper then im sure Paul Jr. and JJ would have battled it out head to head. Paul Sr. in my opinion doesn't do a **** thing anymore but deligate to the kid on the computer and watch the outcome with a cop of coffee in his hand!
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Originally posted by sacred machine View PostIf it was not for Jesse James bringing choppers back to the mainstream those upstate new york boys wouldnt even have a show. They would still be building fences. Im not saying that they are not talented artists but Jesse brought the culture back to life around 2000 and then the flood of bike builders begun. I agree the show pretty much stunk it up. But allways good to see some creativity..
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Originally posted by M16 View PostSorry but it doesn't usually work that way. You would do what she told you to do. It's a lot easier just to go out and make your own money.
I guess Jesse James must have got tired of gettin told what to do all the time.
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Originally posted by JMan View PostJJ is a traditional bike builder in every sense of the word who can make a kickass bike that you wouldn't be affraid to show up on at a tuff biker bar. Paul Jr. on the other hand leads the pack in creativity and design with designs that he comes up with himself. If the plan was to all build a traditional street chopper then im sure Paul Jr. and JJ would have battled it out head to head. Paul Sr. in my opinion doesn't do a **** thing anymore but deligate to the kid on the computer and watch the outcome with a cop of coffee in his hand!
Thats the market for those things.
Look for a chopper in any MC that does actual rides. You won't see one except for a block and half jaunt down the block to impress the aforementioned market.
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Originally posted by ZenDaddy View PostI think you got it right. First time I watched James in West Coast chopper was very, very cool. Nothing else like it on TV. Then, several years later I remember watching the first OCC and thinking this is a cheap knock off of West Coast Choppers.
JJ got famous because he niched the market to sell to rich famous people.
That's when the network (discovery) got involved and said we can make a show about this..
Had little to nothing to do with him building choppers... he could have been making toilet seats... the marketability was in his clientele.
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostJesse James is a .... Man that has more talent and bigger bank account than most every person reading this!!
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Originally posted by Dale Moser View PostBuilding that frame the JJ built is as simple as heating tubing with a rose bud and bending it around a jig he already had...... All that did was waste time on something you could do with a tubing bender and they'd look EXACTLY the same in the end. The sheet metal work he does is what is impressive. He's still a dip**** though.
I wanna see PJr. build a chopper in Jesse's shop! I've no doubt he could do it, they didn't always have all that fancy gear at OCC.
Actually, the place is kinda a crapper hole!!!!
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