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    #76
    JJ is a traditional bike builder in every sense of the word who can make a kickass bike that you wouldn't be affraid to show up on at a tuff biker bar. Paul Jr. on the other hand leads the pack in creativity and design with designs that he comes up with himself. If the plan was to all build a traditional street chopper then im sure Paul Jr. and JJ would have battled it out head to head. Paul Sr. in my opinion doesn't do a **** thing anymore but deligate to the kid on the computer and watch the outcome with a cop of coffee in his hand!

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      #77
      Originally posted by Ironman View Post
      Jesse James is a .... Man that has more talent and bigger bank account than most every person reading this!!
      bigger bank account sure.

      but I think you are not giving the green screen enough credit.

      there are people on here that work with metal/weld/fabricate for a living on here that have done it for much longer than jesse has.

      he can work with metal, and fabricate. I give that to him. I wouldnt say he is the best of anything though.


      I gaurantee his bank is bigger than mine though. BUT, my wife is better looking the girls he messes around with.

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        #78
        Originally posted by JMan View Post
        JJ is a traditional bike builder in every sense of the word who can make a kickass bike that you wouldn't be affraid to show up on at a tuff biker bar. Paul Jr. on the other hand leads the pack in creativity and design with designs that he comes up with himself. If the plan was to all build a traditional street chopper then im sure Paul Jr. and JJ would have battled it out head to head. Paul Sr. in my opinion doesn't do a **** thing anymore but deligate to the kid on the computer and watch the outcome with a cop of coffee in his hand!
        why not. he is in his 60's and rich. Sure OCC was claiming bankruptcy, but SR. by no means is broke. Why work hard at that point in life? I know I sure wouldnt.

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          #79
          I'm guessing I'm the only one that could care a less about either of them. They could impress my by building a lighter and stronger tree stand.

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            #80
            Originally posted by sacred machine View Post
            If it was not for Jesse James bringing choppers back to the mainstream those upstate new york boys wouldnt even have a show. They would still be building fences. Im not saying that they are not talented artists but Jesse brought the culture back to life around 2000 and then the flood of bike builders begun. I agree the show pretty much stunk it up. But allways good to see some creativity..
            I think you got it right. First time I watched James in West Coast chopper was very, very cool. Nothing else like it on TV. Then, several years later I remember watching the first OCC and thinking this is a cheap knock off of West Coast Choppers.

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              #81
              Originally posted by M16 View Post
              Sorry but it doesn't usually work that way. You would do what she told you to do. It's a lot easier just to go out and make your own money.
              That sounds about right but it doesn't hurt to dream.
              I guess Jesse James must have got tired of gettin told what to do all the time.

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                #82
                Originally posted by JMan View Post
                JJ is a traditional bike builder in every sense of the word who can make a kickass bike that you wouldn't be affraid to show up on at a tuff biker bar. Paul Jr. on the other hand leads the pack in creativity and design with designs that he comes up with himself. If the plan was to all build a traditional street chopper then im sure Paul Jr. and JJ would have battled it out head to head. Paul Sr. in my opinion doesn't do a **** thing anymore but deligate to the kid on the computer and watch the outcome with a cop of coffee in his hand!
                news for ya.. "tuf bikers" don't ride those things... they build them and sell them to yuppie/lawyer/doctor types that want to play badboy's on weekends.
                Thats the market for those things.
                Look for a chopper in any MC that does actual rides. You won't see one except for a block and half jaunt down the block to impress the aforementioned market.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by ZenDaddy View Post
                  I think you got it right. First time I watched James in West Coast chopper was very, very cool. Nothing else like it on TV. Then, several years later I remember watching the first OCC and thinking this is a cheap knock off of West Coast Choppers.
                  Indian Larry, and choppers, inc has been doing it for a whole lot longer than JJ.
                  JJ got famous because he niched the market to sell to rich famous people.
                  That's when the network (discovery) got involved and said we can make a show about this..
                  Had little to nothing to do with him building choppers... he could have been making toilet seats... the marketability was in his clientele.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Ironman View Post
                    Jesse James is a .... Man that has more talent and bigger bank account than most every person reading this!!
                    Yep. And he aint dumb. Just look at all the buzz he has caused on here. And I aint sure I would wanna try and ***** slap JJ. Ya might not like what ya get back.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Ragin' View Post
                      Yep. And he aint dumb. Just look at all the buzz he has caused on here. And I aint sure I would wanna try and ***** slap JJ. Ya might not like what ya get back.
                      venereal disease?

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by systemnt View Post
                        venereal disease?
                        Lmao! Never said he wasnt a dawg!

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by systemnt View Post
                          venereal disease?
                          if so, slap higher next time

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by k9trainer View Post
                            if so, slap higher next time:d
                            lmao

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by k9trainer View Post
                              if so, slap higher next time
                              lol.. pretty sure it wouldnt matter where you slap..

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Dale Moser View Post
                                Building that frame the JJ built is as simple as heating tubing with a rose bud and bending it around a jig he already had...... All that did was waste time on something you could do with a tubing bender and they'd look EXACTLY the same in the end. The sheet metal work he does is what is impressive. He's still a dip**** though.


                                I wanna see PJr. build a chopper in Jesse's shop! I've no doubt he could do it, they didn't always have all that fancy gear at OCC.
                                I've been in JJ's shop.... He has all the fancy tools that OCC has..... Just not in front of the cameras. :-)

                                Actually, the place is kinda a crapper hole!!!!

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