Check out this N TX 1.5yr old buck!

[qzilla]

Made a typo on my phone 110".

Daddy is 240" typical with some junk on his g1's and a drop.

Momma has spit out some of the biggest bigs produced.

Momma weighs over 200, daddy is over 300.

All born and raised in TX but very northern.

This is on a small place that is just for fun here in N TX.

I see why he looks small in the pics but you should see him in person!

38 beams
27 tines
17 spread
26 mass

Trust me. These are like looking at big Ohio deer or maybe Canadian deer!

[qzilla]

Nevermind it wasn't nice at all.

[mhbaseball]

I think you are quite wrong on your scoring of this buck, in all due respect. He isnt near 17 inches wide and does not have near 19 inch beams. Still a very nice buck but IN THIS PIC, he won't break 85 total(of course scoring without velvet).

Would like to see more pics though, if you have some

[qzilla]

Ok.

[BIG BONE]

i think you are quite wrong on your scoring of this buck, in all due respect. He isnt near 17 inches wide and does not have near 19 inch beams. Still a very nice buck but in this pic, he won't break 85 total(of course scoring without velvet).

Would like to see more pics though, if you have some

bingo

[mhbaseball]

for comparions sake:
1st: 110-115
2nd: 115
3rd: 65

[Fig]

Nice deer, Quad. Looking forward to more pics as he continues to grow.

[Jamie]

Nice yearling however regarding the dam and sires weight

Momma weighs over 200, daddy is over 300

and whether this will trickle down to their offspring, I think Mother Nature will prevail.

Noteably, you're fighting Bergmann's Rule which is

a principle that correlates environmental temperature with body mass in warm-blooded animals. This rule asserts that within a species, body mass increases with latitude and colder climates. Therefore, individuals of a particular species in colder areas and higher latitudes tend to have greater body mass than individuals in warmer areas and lower latitudes. Basically, larger animals have a lower surface area to volume ratio than smaller animals, so they radiate less body heat and stay warmer in cold climates. On the other hand, warmer climates create the opposite problem. Body heat that is generated by metabolism needs to be dissipated quickly or the animal will get too hot. The higher surface area to volume ratio in hot and dry climates facilitates heat loss through the skin and helps keep the animal’s body cool.

additionally,

This rule has been well documented in scientific literature for other wildlife species, including coyote, wolf, elk, and black bears. Most text books and peer reviewed journals state that the heaviest deer, weighing well over 300 pounds, are found in the northern U.S. and southern Canada while the lightest deer, weighing less than 50 pounds, reside in the tropical climates of the Florida Keys and Central America

still an interesting experiment....please keep us posts on the results

[HandiKap Bowhunter]

Quad that will be a toad in a few yrs.

Nevermind Ill be nice about the other comments

[Leon County Slayer]

maybe 102?...great for a yearling buck though - nice deer

[landon pharr]

120 in this pic? Excellent rack tho for a 1.5 year old. I am assuming you know bc it is HF?

WHAT WOULD HF HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? STIR THE POT THERE BUDDY

[D C]

Nice up and comer you have there Quad.

Let the people that dont know you or your deer think/talk what they want. You dont have to defend yourself to me

[D C]

for comparions sake:
1st: 110-115
2nd: 115
3rd: 65

No way that 3rd buck scored 65. Maybe 42 max.

[mhbaseball]

WHAT WOULD HF HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? STIR THE POT THERE BUDDY

I'm not trying to stir the pot at all thank you. I was just asking because he knows alot about his deer herd and some of those things you would only know if HFed.

For example: Daddy is 240" typical with some junk on his g1's and a drop.

Momma has spit out some of the biggest bigs produced.

Momma weighs over 200, daddy is over 300.



YOU COULD ONLY KNOW THIS INFO IF HFed. Again Qzilla great buck, monster 1.5 for sure.


Like I said earlier, my comments were with all due respect, I was just and was in no means being mean or disrespectful

[qzilla]

for comparions sake:
1st: 110-115
2nd: 115
3rd: 65

The difference is that those deer are about the size of our fawns coming out of spots.

Keep in mind, this is not your standard deer you are looking at by any stretch of the imagination, these are deer "Expirements".

and whether this will trickle down to their offspring, I think Mother Nature will prevail.

Noteably, you're fighting Bergmann's Rule which is

I think you are definitely right, I am just not sure (and neither is anyone else) exactly how it works when certain DNA's are combined.

We seem to be about 50/50 right now with some giants and some average sized animals. This is only the 2nd year at this place. The original recipe was started in East TX in similar climate with positive results??

Of course we try to limit the elements with irrigation, supplemental feeding and water at ridiculously high frequencies per acre. Its sort of like the garden of eden where these deer live.

Be interesting for sure, not sure how it can translate into large pasture animals but who knows?