You call the shot......

[TreeNap]

20 yards, deer is broadside looking straight up at you.

You've set your 20 yard pin shooting from flat ground, and your in a 15 ft. tall tree stand.

We all know where the perfect X on the deer is, where do you aim?

3 inches low? Where in terms of inches in regards to the perfect X spot?

Next,

Same scenerio, but deer isn't looking at you and isn't alarmed.

[LostHawg]

Wait for broadside or quartering away, they move around a lot and it won't cost you any gray hair to wait. No questions about it. Straight on is just asking for trouble.

Did I say deer move?

[Smart]

Straight on is just asking for trouble.

You didn't read the scenario right.......

[TreeNap]

Wait for broadside or quartering away, they move around a lot and it won't cost you any gray hair to wait. No questions about it. Straight on is just asking for trouble.

Did I say deer move?

I think you missed the point.....

Sorry about the double post but refer to this discussion for it to make more sense.

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22255

[LostHawg]

Oops..... Dang if I ain't embarrassed.

Man, these eyes jsut get worse and worse every year. Tree, I'm truly sorry I misread it.

I'm not going to shoot if its looking at me, but won't hesitate if he isn't. My last 20 yard shot sliced through the lungs and said howdy to the heart. 3" should do fine if you're aiming at the heart and not the middle of the lungs.

[TreeNap]

3" should do fine if you're aiming at the heart and not the middle of the lungs.

3" in which direction?

[wes122984]

yes..the angle shouldnt change the point at impact at same distance until you get past about 40 yards..at least in my trials...ill try to find a mathematical eqaution to verify

[TreeNap]

Oops..... Dang if I ain't embarrassed.

Man, these eyes jsut get worse and worse every year. Tree, I'm truly sorry I misread it.

I'm not going to shoot if its looking at me, but won't hesitate if he isn't. My last 20 yard shot sliced through the lungs and said howdy to the heart. 3" should do fine if you're aiming at the heart and not the middle of the lungs.

yes..the angle shouldnt change the point at impact at same distance until you get past about 40 yards..at least in my trials...ill try to find a mathematical eqaution to verify

So bottom line...........

Your 20, 30, 40 yard pins should hit the X if your shot is accurate on flat ground or in a tree?

[Burnadell]

At that distance, with today's fast compound bows, the 20 yard pin should be about the same for 15 yards up the tree as on the ground...having said that, I would aim 3 inches lower to allow for jumping the string if he is looking at you. Unless I thought he was fixin' to bolt, and I thoght I would never see him again, I would wait for him to look away. I always remind myself to hold just a little lower than I think the x spot is.

[wes122984]

ok check this out http://margo.student.utwente.nl/sagi/artikel/arrowfs/

its a cool program someone invented you can program it and it will tell you and show you exactly the mathematical way an arrow will fly--thumbs up to this guy--also--make sure and read the manual--kinda confusing at first

[TreeNap]

At that distance, with today's fast compound bows, the 20 yard pin should be about the same for 15 yards up the tree as on the ground...having said that, I would aim 3 inches lower to allow for jumping the string if he is looking at you. Unless I thought he was fixin' to bolt, and I thoght I would never see him again, I would wait for him to look away. I always remind myself to hold just a little lower than I think the x spot is.

Thanks,

That's exactly what I was looking for.

What about your 30 and 40 yard pin?

Looking, and not looking.

[SPUD]

At that distance, with today's fast compound bows, the 20 yard pin should be about the same for 15 yards up the tree as on the ground...having said that, I would aim 3 inches lower to allow for jumping the string if he is looking at you. Unless I thought he was fixin' to bolt, and I thoght I would never see him again, I would wait for him to look away. I always remind myself to hold just a little lower than I think the x spot is.

I agree with this..

at 15 feet up and the deer 20 yards away from base of tree, your sight line is only 20.6 yards. not much difference.

shoot when looking away

[TreeNap]

ok check this out http://margo.student.utwente.nl/sagi/artikel/arrowfs/

its a cool program someone invented you can program it and it will tell you and show you exactly the mathematical way an arrow will fly--thumbs up to this guy--also--make sure and read the manual--kinda confusing at first

I'm not smart enough to start this thread let alone understand how to run that program.

I'm sure it's good, but I'll have to wait until I get my engineering degree to run and understand it.

[trophy8]

i would let him calm down first .. even though at that distance he wouldnt have time to duck my drenaline.. i just wouldnt feel right about takin it.. for those of you that have lost a deer (and if you havent its just a matter of time.. i know very few hunters that havent lost one) you know how bad that sucks just makes you wanna cry. and three inches sounds about right... it would be even sweeter at eye level though!

[tracker]

Put your pin where the white meets the gray and you should be good. But if the deer is looking at you i hope you are already at full draw if you are going to shot.