New exotic regulations?

[Horitexan]

Was there a change in the exotic species hunting regs lately? I was told there was but can't seem to find anything about it on Google. Supposedly, animals that are considered "endangered" won't be able to be hunted? Just wondering if there's any truth to this? Anyone know?

[pickles]

How can an exotic be considered "endangered" when they are not intended to be in the said area anyway?



Wait....is that even a valid question??

[Horitexan]

When I say "endangered" I'm talking about endangered in their native habitat. A guy with a bunch of Oryx on his ranch said that the Feds passed a new regulation (under pressure from animal rights groups) during the debt debate, that will ban the hunting (or ANY killing) of animals here in the States if the species is listed as "endangered" in their native habitat. I've heard rumors that this has been suggested for a long time but this guy claims a new regulation was passed recently. He's so serious that he's planning to kill EVERY oryx he's got! I'm trying to find out if he's right or mistaken.

So, YES, it's a valid question.

[Shane]

Any species that's on the Endangered Species list has always been off limits to hunting. "Those on the other side" are always trying to add as many species to that list as they can to shut down as much hunting as possible. I did hear something about scimitar-horned oryx possibly being added to the list soon I think. (kinda hard to talk about this without mentioning politics, mods, but I'm trying....)

[Deathrow Jethro]

when i say "endangered" i'm talking about endangered in their native habitat. A guy with a bunch of oryx on his ranch said that the feds passed a new regulation (under pressure from animal rights groups) during the debt debate, that will ban the hunting (or any killing) of animals here in the states if the species is listed as "endangered" in their native habitat. I've heard rumors that this has been suggested for a long time but this guy claims a new regulation was passed recently. He's so serious that he's planning to kill every oryx he's got! I'm trying to find out if he's right or mistaken.

So, yes, it's a valid question.

i have heard of this same thing about these oryx, but i don't know if it is the new law or not... Sorry

[Horitexan]

Here's part of the email I received:

"They are listed as
endangered in their native Africa because their numbers are so
low...but are thriving here is Texas due to the "for profit" efforts
of game ranches and the Exotic Wildlife Association.* Now our smart
folks at the US Fish*& Wildlife Service are planning to list these
here as well...which will in effect move the breed*into zoos and their
numbers will plummet.**Idiots.* Ranches naturally cannot afford to let
these large animals propogate unless there is value.* Grass is too
precious, particulary in this drought.* It is interesting to note that
a number of well meaning*folks*paid to ship a*breeding herd*of these
critters back to Somalia....where they were promptly executed by
maniacs (think the movie Black Hawk Down) with AK 47's right off the
boat.* Enough propaganda."

[DrenalinJunkie]

Last I heard was that they (oryx) will still be able to be hunted. But with a permit ONLY..... no more just hunting them when ever you want to.

[Horitexan]

Seems crazy they'd do it because of this exact scenario. I mean, he's gonna kill 'em and how does this HELP the species? If other ranchers take the same position, the available numbers to repopulate them in their native habitats will decline drastically, practically over night. If he's gonna do it, I sure don't mind helping him out; but I was just what others had heard.

Shane: You are so right about the politics! Lol!

[gatorgar]

Oryx and some others, do a search here on TBH caused quite a stir here last month

[pickles]

When I say "endangered" I'm talking about endangered in their native habitat. A guy with a bunch of Oryx on his ranch said that the Feds passed a new regulation (under pressure from animal rights groups) during the debt debate, that will ban the hunting (or ANY killing) of animals here in the States if the species is listed as "endangered" in their native habitat. I've heard rumors that this has been suggested for a long time but this guy claims a new regulation was passed recently. He's so serious that he's planning to kill EVERY oryx he's got! I'm trying to find out if he's right or mistaken.

So, YES, it's a valid question.

Ah. Ok. I got ya.

Thank you.

[El Coyote]

I believe there was a thread about it all. Maybe Buff? Had started that thread?

[M-2]

Here's the list by state of species recommended to be placed on the endangered list

Here's the complete Texas list:

Austin blind salamander
Diamond Y spring snail
Diminutive amphipod
Georgetown salamander
Gonzales springsnail
Guadalupe fescue
Jollyville Plateau salamander
Lesser prarie-chicken
Louisiana pine snake
Neches River rose-mallow
Oklahoma grass pink
Phantom Lake cave snail
Phantom springsnail
Salado salamander
Sand dune (sagebrush) lizard
Sharp's leafy liverwort
Small-flower meadow-beauty
Sprague's pipit
Texas golden gladecress
Texas hornshell
Warton cave meshweaver
Western yellow-billed cuckoo

[pickles]

Wouldn't one think that animal rights groups would try and go after anything having to do with urban development than say hunting. Considering that is the number one killer of most endangered animals.

What do you guys think? I mean I can understand someone protecting an endangered animal. Just for fun let's say whitetail deer. If they were starting to become extinct here in the states I would push for building more multi-level housing or business than building outward. Thus helping establish habitat for deer. Not outlaw hunting them.

Am I crazy?

[KWEarp]

Last I heard was that they (oryx) will still be able to be hunted. But with a permit ONLY..... no more just hunting them when ever you want to.

I read an article not long ago that talked about this, and from what I remember was that is was going to be a permit type deal as drenalin stated. I also believe there were 2 other species as well. I will see if I can find the link to it.

[El Coyote]

I think the OP us talking about the bill the was put in to ban exotic captive hunting by Steven Cohen. You can google it and it should give you the info your looking for.