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    Lawn guru's....................HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have alot of green in my yard already & it ain't the Bermuda! I have 1.52 acres but I'm really only concerned w/about 3/4 acre that makes up the front yard, sides & what we use as the back yard. I've paid a small fortune in years prior to have different co. come out & spray. It seemed to be pretty affective but short lived. I have bermuda grass. The weeds are giant thistles, clovers, dandelions, little white flowers, crab grass & Dalis grass. What's the best thing I can buy that I can hook to my water hose to keep these weeds in check? Best product to get the bermuda going? Since I'm trying to do a large area I'd prefer it to be sprayed from a hose as opposed to granuals. Thanks!

    #2
    you can buy any weed b gone product from home depot. They do well on the braodleafs. There is one now I think that is labeled for crabgrass. The dallis grass is VERY VERY hard to get rid of. I do not know what the new thing is now for it. It use to be MSMA and you had to spray it 4 to 5 times every 10 days in 90degree weather or above for best result. I use the hook up to hose products on my broadleafes and it works pretty good. MSMA is no longer for sell in stores. The best thing to do in the future is use a preemergent. It will take a couple of years on a program but it works well.

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      #3
      Oh and I am not a lwan guru. I have a turf management dagree and was a golf course superintendent for 8 years.

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        #4
        The best thing now to keep the weeds in check is to put out a pre-emergent herbicide to kill the weeds. the start mowing your yard, keeping the grass level as high as possible, fertilize with a 19-5-10, and water as much as needed. The grass will choke out the weeds. For the future, add a pre-emergent herbicide in early March before the weeds start growing. Also check with your county extension agent for a lawn fertilation chart for your area. This should get you going....

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          #5
          The night temps need to get into the 70's before the bermuda will overtake the weeds. Put out a good fertilizer and the grass will out compete the weeds.

          I don't use weed and feed. Weed killer in your lawn is not healthy for your shrubs and trees. Just my opinion.

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            #6
            I own a lawncare and spraying company and here's my two cents.

            Sorry to say this, but it is too late for a quick glyphosate (roundup) application with a pre-emergent.

            First, I'd make sure that you put out pre-emergent as that's going to keep most weeds out if you put it out 2 or 3 times a year.

            I'm not a fan of any weed and feed products as I've never had success with their products. I'd buy any type of 2, 4-d product that is a mix-it-yourself from a local garden center and then use a hose end type sprayer and likely do a broad application on the turf. I'd stay away from the Home Depot and Lowes for chems as some will call for up to 6 ounces per gallon or 1,000 square foot. I'm currently using about 1.5 oz per 1,000 foot with my stuff, but make sure you follow the label.

            For the grassy weeds, it still may be a little bit early for any type of spray other than a gly to be effective for a good kill (at least in Lubbock). In certain spots you can probably spray individual weeds or spot spray, but that will take a fair amount of time.In about three weeks you should be able to start spraying them with a selective herbicide.

            I really can't recommend individually named products to you as I'm a commercial applicator and most of my stuff comes from the chemical company, but I will definitely say use a 2, 4-d spray for broadleafs and knock them out and then battle the grassy weeds when it warms up.

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              #7
              Take a look at a chemical called Celsius or drive. Both of these chemicals are non restrictive. One bottle of each will do up to two acres at the highest rate. We use celsius ourselves, but I also like the drive. Also, when spraying use a sticker agent to get good contact with your weeds. With each of these products one bottle will give you two doses. I know these will cover most of you weeds you mentioned but you can read the entire weeds it will treat on the net. Hope this helps.

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                #8
                Don't you have to have a license to buy Celsius or Drive(I've heard good things about both but thought they were out of my reach).

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by tkuehn5410 View Post
                  I own a lawncare and spraying company and here's my two cents.

                  Sorry to say this, but it is too late for a quick glyphosate (roundup) application with a pre-emergent.

                  First, I'd make sure that you put out pre-emergent as that's going to keep most weeds out if you put it out 2 or 3 times a year.

                  I'm not a fan of any weed and feed products as I've never had success with their products. I'd buy any type of 2, 4-d product that is a mix-it-yourself from a local garden center and then use a hose end type sprayer and likely do a broad application on the turf. I'd stay away from the Home Depot and Lowes for chems as some will call for up to 6 ounces per gallon or 1,000 square foot. I'm currently using about 1.5 oz per 1,000 foot with my stuff, but make sure you follow the label.

                  For the grassy weeds, it still may be a little bit early for any type of spray other than a gly to be effective for a good kill (at least in Lubbock). In certain spots you can probably spray individual weeds or spot spray, but that will take a fair amount of time.In about three weeks you should be able to start spraying them with a selective herbicide.

                  I really can't recommend individually named products to you as I'm a commercial applicator and most of my stuff comes from the chemical company, but I will definitely say use a 2, 4-d spray for broadleafs and knock them out and then battle the grassy weeds when it warms up.
                  I still have some MSMA, but not a lot. When I run out of that this summer, what should I use for crabgrass and dallis grass in a bermuda lawn?

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                    #10
                    I will be watching this.
                    I have 5 acres and have problems getting my bermuda to take over. I ferlize in April and spray graze-on for goat weeds. Right now I have a bur clover problem. If the clover gets to tall its hard to mow with ridding mower. When the clover gets tall it makes the seed bur. I herd to use pre-emergant around Valatine day and Labor day. Haven't tried it yet.

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                      #11
                      Where can I get 2,4-D? Preferably in a liquid? After reading up on it, it seems to be just what I was looking for. 3rd most used weed killer in the nation should be good enough for me!

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                        #12
                        I ain't no lawn guru either by any means. But, when I bought my house last year the lawn was terrible. I put out some Scott's Weed and Feed and I literally had the best lawn on the block. It killed all the weeds.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shane View Post
                          I still have some MSMA, but not a lot. When I run out of that this summer, what should I use for crabgrass and dallis grass in a bermuda lawn?
                          I can't say right off hand, I deal with a lot of restrictive stuff (I'm still spraying MSMA), but have to run by the nursery tomorrow and can give you some advice for over the counter type stuff.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by LFD2037 View Post
                            Where can I get 2,4-D? Preferably in a liquid? After reading up on it, it seems to be just what I was looking for. 3rd most used weed killer in the nation should be good enough for me!
                            It's a chemical that's in just about any spray for broadleaf weeds. I used to use a lot of a spray called Weed Free Zone which is sold at the nurseries before I started buying from the warehouse. If you look at labels before you buy you will find some have higher concentrations of the spray than others.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tkuehn5410 View Post
                              It's a chemical that's in just about any spray for broadleaf weeds. I used to use a lot of a spray called Weed Free Zone which is sold at the nurseries before I started buying from the warehouse. If you look at labels before you buy you will find some have higher concentrations of the spray than others.
                              I'm going w/the Fertilome Weed Free Zone(found it locally & it looks promising!). I'll also be buying the Fertilome brass hose spray attachment. Next, & hopefully 2 last questions, is about fertilizer. I have dark(black) soil that used to be a pasture full of coastal bermuda. It's now domesticated(?) bermuda(that's what my old man calls it). What is a good liquid fertilizer(is there one?) I can put out using the same hose attachment & how long should I wait between spraying the Weed Free & putting out fertilizer? I feel for the 1st time I actually have a game plan on these dang weeds & I'm fired up about it! Now just if the dang wind would take a rest.
                              Last edited by LFD2037; 03-22-2011, 10:43 PM.

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