Average Ke?

[Bones]

Well then, you have a plausible argument on your hands, I guess.

Then again, many people don't believe that I am pushing 518gr arrows at 260 with a '02 model bow at 30" and 70lb either.

I really have no argument to your point, I just didn't understand your initial statement.

[mesquitecountry]

How is that even possible? Not trying to argue but there is/was not a bow on the market that had an IBO rating of more than about 318 back in 02. Add 218 grains to IBO. NO way!

[Bones]

I don't know. I can tell you that I make only one assumption........... Two different scales with the same result and two different cronos with the same result, belonging to two different entities in two different locations can't be wrong.......

[duck or bleed]

I'm saying anything greater than oh about 350 grain arrow at 30" with a IBO rating of any bow on the market today will not and cannot make 275 or 290 fps. It's just not possible. Yall are throwing out 380 grain arrows at 60#'s and expect people to believe they're flying 270+fps. IMPOSSIBLE. I'd like to see video'd proof. Weight of arrow, poundage, draw length and chrono. It aint gonna happen. Only bow that can even come close would be the 60# synergy.

I know where there is a Bowtech Allegiance that's 28 inches, 62 lbs with 400 grain arrow that will, and I repeat WILL, shoot 282 and produce 70 lbs of energy. Those are facts MC and I'd love for you to offer up a wager on that! I'll take your money so fast you won't know what hit you!

And on a lighter note:
Allegiance,
29 inches
70 lbs.
425 grain arrow
295 fps
82.14 lbs/ke

[wacm]

mesquite- are you just trying to rile somebody up? you cant be serious when you say that it "impossible". i got numbers on an 07' allegiance that ill share with you if you are in the mood to listen.

[TMEC]

This number that number I don't care as long as it lets the air out. nuff said

[wacm]

i'll share them with you anyway since ducks on here too.

28"-63#-388gr.-280fps.-67.5 lb's KE

and thats with an arrow that is 73gr. over IBO.

lets knock those 73 gr. off and go with an IBO arrow.
every 30 gr. is 10 fps. so you can add 25 fps on to 280.
thats 305fps and 65.0 KE.!
i'll take some of that wager myself!

[mesquitecountry]

I especially do not ever believe anything duck or wacm way. I shoot a bowtech. I love the bows but i'm not spouting off B.S. never bet a liar. I figure you still owe me the money you lost on the Elite going under bet. LOL.


You video the weighing, poundage, the draw length and the chrono and then I might think you are telling the truth. Until then there is not a bow on the market that can get the speed that yall are inventing.

My TRUE Bowtech Tribute settings.
61#'s
29"draw
314.5 grain arrow
278 FPS.

54lbs. KE

Bowtech Tribute IBO Rating 310.

Bowtech Allegiance IBO Rating 318

So you expect me to believe that a bow that is only rated 8 fps faster shooting a 388 grain arrow (88 grains heavier) is gonna shoot 2 fps faster than my bow. OH wait you add string suppressors and a peep and then you lose more speed. LOL. SERIOUSLY tell those lies to people who dont know the difference. This aint my first rodeo. Yall might be able to tell archery talkies that babble but I aint buying.

[mesquitecountry]

Duck,

with a 70 pound bow you're shooting 295. Pretty good for an IBO rating of 318. Which by the way is a 300 grain arrow not a 425 grain arrow and 30" draw. Take off 5 fps for the shorter bow. You expect people to believe that. LOL. Seriously stop it. I'm gonna bust a gut laughing at these stories. You might as well have said my bow shoots 335 fps. WOW yall are like super bowhunters or something.

[ronny]

I shoot a Bowtech, set at 60# 337 grain arrow and got 278fps out of it with a 26 1/2 in draw.

[Texastaxi]

400gr arrow x 27" draw at 65# = 67 lbs ke

Imagine that ... more ke than draw weight AND out of a 27" bow!
Another fact that'll blow your mind ... it AIN'T a Bowtech!

[Ground Checkin' Heavies]

Who cares!!!!

[Rudey]

If I remember right, I'm throwing a 410 gr arrow at around 260 fps for 61 ft lbs.

[shaft]

this bow will do it all!(see picture)

[duck or bleed]

First off MC! Don't ever ever call me a liar again! Is that understood? I only post true numbers! I will gladly bet you bow for bow that I will be within +/- 2 fps of what I said! You have to be drunk right now to say the stupid things you are saying! You name the time and place and I'll take your money! If you won't do that then shut up! Matter of fact email me the time and place! Kenobax@hotmail.com.