AGHH! Texas Flag History help!

[txpitdog]

I was all set to get one of those cool tin flags from ckuehl. I have always liked what I THOUGHT was the frost flag of the Texas Republic, which is the one with blue background and the big star in the middle with Texas spelled around it.
I was looking up websites to give ckuehl a better example, and I stumbled on this website which claims the flag is a total fake! (See Lorenzo de Zavala flag)

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-txhs.html#long

Now, as much as I like that flag, the last **** thing I'm going to do is express my Texas pride based on a fraudulent flag. Does anyone know any history on this? Is that website correct or is it a pile of dook?

Help! And I mean it! That flag design was going to decorate the inside of my bicep one day. Now I gotta rethink my flag design and my ink!


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[Mike Javi Cooper]

http://www.tamu.edu/faculty/ccbn/dewitt/indepenflgs.htm

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/msf01

[BIG IRON]

Never heard that. I bet someone on here can set the record straight.

[angelbeach]

Lorenzo De Zavala was the first VP of The Republic of Texas, I've read that one of his roles/hobbies was flag design. The last I heard this was a design he proposed but was never officially adopted. I have also read that he had no design input at all, about the only thing everyone agrees on is that it was never an official flag of Texas.

Fraudulent may be a strong word, I think it looks cool and official or not I would use it. Just as long as I explain the history behind it properly.

[ckuehl]

Man glad you looked into this.

[angelbeach]

Ckuehl,
Do you have a link with information for your flags? Or can you provide me some pricing information? Those look great.

[angelbeach]

This site has a pretty neat write up about the flag in question.

http://texasheritagesociety.org/History-of-the-First-Flag-of-the-Republic-of-Texas.html

Also someone mentioned that the design of the star with TEXAS spelled around it is used in the rotunda of the capital so its not completely unknown. It would make a good conversation piece.

[Coach W]

I am a history major and actually teach Texas and US history.

As to a flag being called Fake that term is hard to define. Before, During, and after the revolution (both Texas and American) there were a lot of flags made. You have to remember they didnt have flag factories and these were done by hand. Most of the time by women and some by soldiers to show their pride in their cause. In order for a flag to to be adopted as an official flag it has to go through legislation and be approved. Thousands of flags that we think of today were never officially aproved, but does not make them Fake.

As far as the ink on your arm its up to you but If you like it and think of it in a way to show your pride in your state and your state then do it.

There will always be haters out there but The confederate flag from the civil war was never approved by the U.S. governement because it wasnt for the U.S. governement and you still see these everywhere. The "Come and Take it Flag" comes to mind as well.

[texasduck]

I teach Texas History and found this website. Gives alot of info on the early flags of Texas.

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/texas/flags-republic-texas.htm

[TXhunter77]

Like Coach W said there was a bunch of Flags that were made but never adopted; if the design works for you and you feel it shows the love you have for the greatest state in American then I would say keep moving forward with your tattoo. Keep in mind the De Zavala flag was a part of Texas history.