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    #76
    Is it time for FUDD II yet?

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      #77


      I hope the mods will allow this link. The one before too. I suppose I should've asked previously. Its completely understood if you remove it. I just think this particular link is beneficial to the thread.

      Joey, I hope we can do it again in September. I'll get organized and try to be more accommodating than I was on the last one. Anyway, we do have the range at our disposal providing there's no conflict with club activities.

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        #78
        As one or two on here have stated. Your going to do what you want. Thats the American way. And a few on here are saying its cool. I have shot for 34 years, and I say it's not cool at all. I have seen my share of good wooden arrows shot out of recurves blow up. I have had two friends buy arrows that were not spined properly that blew and they had to have major surgery to there hand , wrist and arm. This was out of low poundage (45lb) recurves. One had to quite shooting. He can no longer hold a bow, and lost all intrist in trying to adapt. Why would you want to shoot a wooden shaft out of a modern compound, that has been proven to put over 200 pounds of pressure on that arrow dureing fireing before it leaves the bow. That is beond my comperhision. I haven't and never will. I will shoot them where they belong, with my trad equipment.You may do it. And you may get away with it some. But soner or later, theres going to be a blow up .And as I stated before. When you have an arrow sticking thru your hand or arm. I hope you will still be able to shoot after you get repaired.

        I hope theres no young shooters on here that go out and try this stupid crap because some of you on here are trying to say its ok. You young shooters be smart. The bow manufactors don't do hundreds of thousands of $$$$$ worth of testing to recomend an arrow for there bows for nothing. Don't you think if it were recomended that there would be something about it in your owners manuel or on there web sites......But there isn't...........

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          #79
          Tracy is it windy in September?!?

          We should put Caddo and Cotton in a room together without any beer and see who'd walk out first.
          Nah, if anyone had any chance of selling me on this it would be Caddo! I just can’t trust 30 inches of wood not to have a micro flaw in it somewhere.

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            #80
            Birddog, the majority of compound shooters use a mechanical release. Some trad. I've seen MORE mechanical release malfunctions that resulted in dangerous arrow flight than I have seen wood arrows "blow up" on release. Yet, the mech release is an accepted practice, encouraged even and wood arrows are taboo. There's hazards in every aspect of this thing we do.

            Its not "crap" as you say.

            Furthermore, if you're going to teach a newb, teach him/her RIGHT and tell them the hazards they're undertaking. Teach them how to match the arrow up to the bow. Too often, and this tells in the numerous youth programs we have in the various organizations, we just hand them a bow and arrows and say shoot like this; arrows fly every which way. We also over bow our kids trying to get them out hunting sooner and in 10 years they're experiencing shoulder discomfort. In 15 they can no longer draw a bow. I've seen WAY too many compound archers and a few trad archers sky draw their bow. They are OVER bowed. If you have to contort your body to get your bow back, that should be a very strong warning sign. You don't have to shoot 70# to kill a deer; 40 works just fine. Oh, that's right, we have to be macho. I was at a tournament with the LSBA down at Kerrville in 01 and watched two men draw the bow to letoff for a 3rd. He then proceeded to take the shot and missed the target completely. He was overbowed.

            When you mentor a person, when you TEACH a person to shoot a bow, teach them what it entails. Not just the shot itself. Grab~n~Go archery is just looking for an accident. A bow doesn't make an archer; KNOWING how to use the bow properly does. Both Caddo and I have been saying all along that the wood arrow from a compound is feasible as long as the rules of arrow tuning are applied.

            Even with traditional equipment you have to compensate for different influences when selecting an arrow. I shoot a 52# longbow, but I have to shoot a 62# spined arrow. A reasoning man would say I need a 52# spined arrow. Compensating for limb design, shelf depth, draw length and point weight of my choice, I have to adapt and tune the arrow to my bow. This means I need to go stiffer in spine than the draw weight at AMO specs.

            You don't just grab any arrow and chunk it off any bow. They have to be matched up. Of course, a LOT of bowhunters have a proshop tune their equipment so they don't have a clue as to what that entails. They don't even know what size arrow they're shooting. Scarey right there, if you want scarey. I've even had people tell me they didn't know their preset draw weight at let-off.

            The fact that bowhunters don't know anything about their equipment is what's crap. Not just wanting to try a different shaft material.
            Last edited by LostHawg; 07-26-2007, 07:11 AM.

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              #81
              Originally posted by chrisk View Post
              Tucked in the back of his warehouse of string tossed spears was three colorful arrows with an unknown spine but we gave them a try.
              Originally posted by Tracy
              You don't just grab any arrow and chunk it off any bow. They have to be matched up. Of course, a LOT of bowhunters have a proshop tune their equipment so they don't have a clue as to what that entails. They don't even know what size arrow they're shooting. Scarey right there, if you want scarey. I've even had people tell me they didn't know their preset draw weight at let-off.

              The fact that bowhunters don't know anything about their equipment is what's crap. Not just wanting to try a different shaft material.
              My point exactly Tracy in my very first post.

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                #82
                Yessir Chris, I know.

                I did have a bit of a question mark about those particular arrows, but I read it as already being proven flight worthy. Must be all the PD680 I've used to clean weapons systems before OSHA told us to wear gloves...

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                  #83
                  Kewl... just so you know that I wasn't finding great pleasure in being a "tool" on this particular issue....not that I am not fully capable of being one

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