Somebody school me in the "up" and "down" method of scoring on the hoof

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I played the scoring game that someone posted. I did very well on deer that were under 140 (probably all I'll ever need anyway ) But on the bigger deer I was missing them by a ton. It got me to thinking about Tuthdoc's up and down scoring method.

How do you start? What is in the down category? Mass & Width?

Up category? Tine length and main beams?

Any tips on getting closer on tine length and g2 length? Do yall think about body size in comparison to the rack before you start (racks look bigger on small bodied deer). Thanks for the help.

[coachk43]

Not sure on that method, but here is how I score on the hoof:

Ears - roughly 7 inches. Judge tine length by the ears.
Eye - roughly 3 inches in circumference. Use that to measure mass.
ear to ear / tip to tip - roughly 15 inches - use that to judge spread
Base or horns to tip of nose - roughly 18 inches - use that to judge main beam length.


I score one side of the deers rack and double my score, then add spread and voila, judged on hoof. Takes me roughly 20 seconds. Sometimes longer on bigger deer.

[Leon County Slayer]

is this what you're looking for, I searched it today and Mr. Randell found it for me:
G1's 2in x 2=4inches
G2's 8in x 2=16inches
G3's 10in x 2 =20inches
G4's 8in x 2= 16inches
only one G5 =4inches
Add the total up and you get (60) inches then you just determine what mass measurement to give him the the 3 basic measurements are 75,85,&95
if a deer is 75 he's light horned
if the deer is 85 he's average horned
if the deer is 95 he's heavy horned
Since your deer is in between average and heavy i would give him (90)
So then you just add up the two 90+60=(150) and you have a rough score. Of course not always is a deer symetrical on both sides so if that were the case then you just add each individual tinelength without multiplying by 2. This is an quick tip that will help you judge a deer in the field in less then 30 seconds. Practice this for a little bit and you will be suprised how close youll actually get to the real score.

[kfd82]

Chew, try to look at post 1 and post 48 here : http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...hlight=scoring
You may be able to piece together his system.

I know he explained it out in detail more than once but I havent been able to find any of those threads. Hope this helps you a little.

[Codie]

the DOWN score is the Mass, Width, and Beam Length
the UP score is the length of all points OTHER than the main beams

For the most part, you can put together a pretty reliable DOWN score for the deer in your area depending on age class and then just add up their UP score when they step out and you have a rough score on the hoof.

I use 85" as my down score for mature deer in our area, so if a 10 point steps out and he is mature, all I have to do is add up the length of his G1'S, G2'S, G3'S, & G4'S and I have a good rough score estimate

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Thanks guys. Good info.

[big_smith]

80-85 on the down side for a hill country deer seems right. Then just add up the "up" tines as stated above. If you are talking about a northern deer, or South Texas then 90-95 and maybe even 100 is more right. The bucks I have taken in Brady over the past several years have averaged 85-87 down (mass, spread, main beams).

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Good stuff big_smith. That sound about right for Schleicher County.

[3rdShot]

The Down score - if it's brown, it's DOWN!!

[Stevotary]

Just ask them what they score.

[mitchbcs]

the DOWN score is the Mass, Width, and Beam Length
the UP score is the length of all points OTHER than the main beams

For the most part, you can put together a pretty reliable DOWN score for the deer in your area depending on age class and then just add up their UP score when they step out and you have a rough score on the hoof.
I use 85" as my down score for mature deer in our area, so if a 10 point steps out and he is mature, all I have to do is add up the length of his G1'S, G2'S, G3'S, & G4'S and I have a good rough score estimate

80-85 on the down side for a hill country deer seems right. Then just add up the "up" tines as stated above. If you are talking about a northern deer, or South Texas then 90-95 and maybe even 100 is more right. The bucks I have taken in Brady over the past several years have averaged 85-87 down (mass, spread, main beams).

These guys have it... determine your "area" for the DOWN #... it will differ depending on mass alot of times but all three play a factor.

In Mexico, I add up the TOP and stick it with 100.... then I ask myself, does this deer have a 100 bottom? then start deducting if I doubt that. Usually pretty close. I have a problem with MB length judgin....

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Thanks folks.