Ever use "The Extractor" on a snake bite?

[Miki]

If I get bit want be a need for if. Hart failure

[Buckrunner]

If I get bit want be a need for if. Hart failure

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[Artos]

it has to be worth a try but all you hear from the 'sperts' is not to use/do anything other than staying calm & getting medical help asap??

supposedly, the act of anything else can cause some bad effects to the extremedies where applied with bad infections / amputation??


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reminded of the ole joke:
"doc says your gonna die...

[Jp.]

I had one in my pack for years.I opened it last year to just look at it and lo and behold it had rotted.I first noticed the iodine had dried up,then since that was bad and I was going to have to get another one i looked at every thing else and there was a hole in the blade foil and I opened it on up. The blade had a few small rust spots.
I got to looking at the suction cups and it had dry rot cracks. I think I had had it in my packs since the mid 80's. So my best advise is if you are going to keep one, is just like everything else to keep it in good shape too.
Jp.

edit: I will not replace it either.

[WyoHunter]

Modern snake bite treatments are different than they were 30 years ago when "kits" were sold with tiny scalpels, suction cups and restriction bands.

Therefore, health officials don't recommend sucking the venom from fang marks widened by x-shaped incisions.

Instead, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests these steps:


•"If you or someone you know are bitten, try to see and remember the color and shape of the snake, which can help with treatment of the snake bite.

•"Keep the bitten person still and calm. This can slow down the spread of venom. Seek medical attention as soon as possible.

•"Dial 911 or call local Emergency Medical Services (EMS).

•"Apply first aid if you cannot get the person to the hospital right away. Lay or sit the person down with the bite below the level of the heart. Tell him/her to stay calm and still.

•"Cover the bite with a clean, dry dressing.

•"Do not pick up the snake or try to trap it. This may put you or someone else at risk for a bite.

•"Do not apply a tourniquet.

•"Do not slash the wound with a knife.

•"Do not suck out the venom.

•"Do not apply ice or immerse the wound in water.

•"Do not drink alcohol as a pain killer.

•"Do not drink caffeinated beverages."


Hope this helps.

[TB80]

I have one. Thankfully, I've never had to use it.

Randy, I read a good bit a few years ago about the spark plug wire deal. From what I read, either a spark plug wire or a cattle prod would help a lot. Something about the electric charges from those that breaks down the venom somehow. I can't remember if it's amps or volts (I'm no electrician), but the charges from those things worked where a light socket doesn't.

nothing like getting snake bit and shocked in the same day.

[HandiKap Bowhunter]

Ive been told by EMS that its best to stay calm and just call 911 ASAP. They basicly told me that if you cut your leg to TRY to get the venom out then they have to work with a snake bite and a cut.

[h20thief]

Like Snakelover said the lymphatic return is the typical route for venom to travel. Very rarely does the snake get lucky and puncture a vessel. In EMS a "light" restricting band above the bite will slow the travel speed and allow you more time to receive antivenom. Removing rings and watches should be the first thing as the swelling will create big time problems. Then a brisk trip to the closest medical facility for the appropriate care.

[medic151]

I heard that the use of any of those snake bite kits, is your first step to becoming an amputee. The protocol we have is as stated above by H2Othief. Just go to the e.r.

[JDALEX]

from personal experience the extractor does work. and ive seen it used on several ocassions. its not going to get all of the venom out but i will get some of it out if used immediately. i worked at the taylor snake show for about 8 years, so i got to see alot of bites.

[casper]

I have one and have used it for bee and wasp stings. It seems to work just fine. With that in mind, I would still be headed to the ER in a rush if anyone was snake bit in the group.

[cshall999]

I would figure that a venom sucker would infuse the muscle tissue by creating a small vaccum? In my EMT classes they told us not to cut anything and that if it was needed to apply a turnicut(sp) above the bite area, then rush to the nearest ER.

[Snakelover]

I heard that the use of any of those snake bite kits, is your first step to becoming an amputee.

Not arguing your point. But this Fer-De-Lance bite did a pretty good job of taking that first step even without the use of a kit...



Just sayin' it depends a lot on the circumstances and just how long it could take to get to medical care. In a very remote area, one of those little kits might be your best chance.

[zztex]

Modern snake bite treatments are different than they were 30 years ago when "kits" were sold with tiny scalpels, suction cups and restriction bands.

Therefore, health officials don't recommend sucking the venom from fang marks widened by x-shaped incisions.

Instead, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests these steps:


•"If you or someone you know are bitten, try to see and remember the color and shape of the snake, which can help with treatment of the snake bite.

•"Keep the bitten person still and calm. This can slow down the spread of venom. Seek medical attention as soon as possible.

•"Dial 911 or call local Emergency Medical Services (EMS).

•"Apply first aid if you cannot get the person to the hospital right away. Lay or sit the person down with the bite below the level of the heart. Tell him/her to stay calm and still.

•"Cover the bite with a clean, dry dressing.

•"Do not pick up the snake or try to trap it. This may put you or someone else at risk for a bite.

•"Do not apply a tourniquet.

•"Do not slash the wound with a knife.

•"Do not suck out the venom.

•"Do not apply ice or immerse the wound in water.

•"Do not drink alcohol as a pain killer.

•"Do not drink caffeinated beverages."


Hope this helps.

Just sat through a seminar at the plant today from the poison control people and this is exactly what they said. The plant was giving away some snake bite kits and the lady said "Don't use them"

[mitchbcs]

Modern snake bite treatments are different than they were 30 years ago when "kits" were sold with tiny scalpels, suction cups and restriction bands.

Therefore, health officials don't recommend sucking the venom from fang marks widened by x-shaped incisions.

Instead, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests these steps:


•"If you or someone you know are bitten, try to see and remember the color and shape of the snake, which can help with treatment of the snake bite.

•"Keep the bitten person still and calm. This can slow down the spread of venom. Seek medical attention as soon as possible.

•"Dial 911 or call local Emergency Medical Services (EMS).

•"Apply first aid if you cannot get the person to the hospital right away. Lay or sit the person down with the bite below the level of the heart. Tell him/her to stay calm and still.

•"Cover the bite with a clean, dry dressing.

•"Do not pick up the snake or try to trap it. This may put you or someone else at risk for a bite.

•"Do not apply a tourniquet.

•"Do not slash the wound with a knife.

•"Do not suck out the venom.

•"Do not apply ice or immerse the wound in water.

•"Do not drink alcohol as a pain killer.

•"Do not drink caffeinated beverages."


Hope this helps.

Generally speaking...the only place i'll get bit is in Mexico! Where I'm typically already HYPED up just from being there and usually wake up with an alcoholic beverage mixed with a Rockstar... Guess it doesnt really matter bc I doubt we would be able to make it to the hospital in time to save me! More risks involved with hunting Mexico I guess