Stove pipe installation questions

[Txjourneyman]

I recently purchased a wood stove at a barn sale. I plan to install it in my living room and have questions about installing the chimney pipe. is anyone here experienced in this kind of thing? Where is a good place to buy the pipe?

[Dale Moser]

What size pipe is it?

How much you reckon you'll need?

Do you have the ceiling support box?

[WDRookie]

If you are anywhere near Tyler, go by East Texas Brick Co. on the loop. They will have everything you need to install it.

[Txjourneyman]

What size pipe is it?

How much you reckon you'll need?

Do you have the ceiling support box?

6" pipe, I'll need about 15' I don't have anything but the stove.

WDRookie I'll give them a try I'm not too far from Tyler.

[cosmiccowboy]

Your cheapest and easiest way to install it will be to use what they call "Type A" snap together vent stack. You can but it at most A/C supplies and Home Depot/Lowes might even have it. It's just a single wall stack that has a male end crimped on it and a lock seam down the length of it. You can also buy adjustable 45's and 90's for it and also get pre-made rain caps. you can shorten them on the female end with tin snips to get the exact length you need.

This is how I did mine at the ranch. IMHO you also want to install a pipe damper right above the stove like this one so you can choke it down at night.

http://www.amazon.com/Vogelzang-6in-.../dp/B000KKO0OC

[Dale Moser]

With all due respect, to CC. That stuff is really not designed to handle the heat a stove can generate. At the very least you'll need a LOT of clearance to combustibles with it. We always install a ceiling support box at the ceiling, then insulated pac pipe from there on up. Then you set the stove and use 6" black pipe from stove to ceiling. The pac pipe is a little overkill, but it's what code requires.....and our liability is greater than most.

[k9trainer]

good stuff Dale, we have been looking at a wood burning stove for our back room

[cosmiccowboy]

With all due respect, to CC. That stuff is really not designed to handle the heat a stove can generate. At the very least you'll need a LOT of clearance to combustibles with it. We always install a ceiling support box at the ceiling, then insulated pac pipe from there on up. Then you set the stove and use 6" black pipe from stove to ceiling. The pac pipe is a little overkill, but it's what code requires.....and our liability is greater than most.

Good point...I was thinking more hunting camp install/sidewall vent just in air with good clearance. For a conventional house going through attic you definitely don't want to use type A. Double wall type B is much safer . Is that what you meant by pac pipe?

[Dale Moser]

Pac pipe may not be completely accurate for the stuff I was trying to think of. For stoves we use a product called Simpson Dura Plus, it's got a layer of ceramic blanket and an air gap between the walls. Simpson Dura Tech is the "Pac Pipe" I was thinking of.....or that's what they use to refer to it as at the supply house. I think it's packed with insulative "pellets" between walls or something.

I'd be glad to order it for you Txjourney, but getting it to you may negate whatever I could save you. They are good people at East Tx Brick, and there's another guy in Tyler that goes by Lite My Fire....he's very good too, but he'll probably just order it from us.

Simpson has a kit that comes with support box, black pipe adapter, insulation shield, roof jack, storm collar, spark arrestor (top) and maybe something else. I think that was part#9085 but don't quote me on that. I use to order that kit, a set of elbows if neccesary, and then the pipe individually....in 3' sections.

[atombomb]

notice Kevin, even though you might not understand why.... Dale is right

[cosmiccowboy]

Pac pipe may not be completely accurate for the stuff I was trying to think of. For stoves we use a product called Simpson Dura Plus, it's got a layer of ceramic blanket and an air gap between the walls. Simpson Dura Tech is the "Pac Pipe" I was thinking of.....or that's what they use to refer to it as at the supply house. I think it's packed with insulative "pellets" between walls or something.

I'd be glad to order it for you Txjourney, but getting it to you may negate whatever I could save you. They are good people at East Tx Brick, and there's another guy in Tyler that goes by Lite My Fire....he's very good too, but he'll probably just order it from us.

Simpson has a kit that comes with support box, black pipe adapter, insulation shield, roof jack, storm collar, spark arrestor (top) and maybe something else. I think that was part#9085 but don't quote me on that. I use to order that kit, a set of elbows if neccesary, and then the pipe individually....in 3' sections.

Gotcha. Y'all are using stainless lined triple wall. Good stuff, just expensive. I can understand why you would do it in residential for liability/overkill. I know in San Antonio code allows using standard double wall type B on atmospheric heaters/boilers. Not sure about residential fireplaces/stoves.

[Txjourneyman]

Pac pipe may not be completely accurate for the stuff I was trying to think of. For stoves we use a product called Simpson Dura Plus, it's got a layer of ceramic blanket and an air gap between the walls. Simpson Dura Tech is the "Pac Pipe" I was thinking of.....or that's what they use to refer to it as at the supply house. I think it's packed with insulative "pellets" between walls or something.

I'd be glad to order it for you Txjourney, but getting it to you may negate whatever I could save you. They are good people at East Tx Brick, and there's another guy in Tyler that goes by Lite My Fire....he's very good too, but he'll probably just order it from us.

Simpson has a kit that comes with support box, black pipe adapter, insulation shield, roof jack, storm collar, spark arrestor (top) and maybe something else. I think that was part#9085 but don't quote me on that. I use to order that kit, a set of elbows if neccesary, and then the pipe individually....in 3' sections.

I may well order it from you if for no other reason than you sound like you know what you are doing. If you don't mind I'd like to PM you with more questions as I get closer to install time. I do know I want to go with double wall. Also the stove will be centrally located in the house so I have to go with a roof jack. I can't go out a side wall.

[Dale Moser]

Lately we've done a few BIG commercial masonry fireplaces in some restuarants, conference centers, and a church. Some required 18" diameter triple wall.......you wanna talk about EXPENSIVE!

[Dale Moser]

I may well order it from you if for no other reason than you sound like you know what you are doing. If you don't mind I'd like to PM you with more questions as I get closer to install time. I do know I want to go with double wall. Also the stove will be centraly located in the house so I have to go with a roof jack. I can't go out a side wall.

I'll be glad to answer anything I can still remember about it! I may be going to Louisianna in the next couple weeks as well, I could possibly bring it to ya.

[cosmiccowboy]

Lately we've done a few BIG commercial masonry fireplaces in some restuarants, conference centers, and a church. Some required 18" diameter triple wall.......you wanna talk about EXPENSIVE!

Yeah, about 15 years ago we did a job on an Air Force base here that the engineer went nuts on...replaced an existing boiler stack (I think it was 16") with a new all stainless modular pressure type triple wall he spec'd. As best I remember the job THEN was like $25,000 and they demolished the building 4 months after we finished the job.