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    Uhhh...and this is a bad thing?

    These left wing slanted articles about the Arizona law crack me up...ILLEGAL immigrants are voluntarily going back to Mexico and they write the article like it's a BAD thing?

    http://marketplace.publicradio.org/d...immigrant-law/


    Hispanics leave AZ over immigrant law

    The U.S. Conference of Mayors meets today in Oklahoma City, Okla. They spent part of their morning, though, talking about Arizona. The mayors went on the record against Arizona's new immigration law that's set to go into effect at the end of next month. The one that makes it makes a crime to be in that state without the right papers. The mayors also want Washington to get its act together on federal immigration reform, so that state laws aren't necessary anymore. Some illegal immigrants in Arizona aren't waiting around.


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    By Jeff Tyler

    All over Phoenix, you'll find yard sales, like this one -- Silvia Arias sells the possessions of four Hispanic families. They're undocumented, so they're moving some place else.

    "Some are returning to Mexico," Arias said. "Some are moving to Albuquerque."

    The new law -- requiring police to verify the legal status of immigrants -- has created a climate of fear.

    "Everyone is migrating to other states to see if we can find a better life for our children," she said.

    Leticia Munoz also wants a better life for her kids. She's been in the U.S. for 10 years. Now, she's planning to move her family back to Mexico.

    "There really are no jobs there," Munoz said. "I don't want to go back. I have three children. But, these new laws really scare me."

    She used to earn around $400 a month babysitting the children of other immigrants. But over the last year-and-a-half, Arizona has cracked down on businesses that employ undocumented workers. Many immigrants have lost their jobs, and they no longer need a babysitter. Leticia is down to making $90 dollars a month -- not enough to live on.

    When she leaves, she'll pull her 8-year-old daughter out of school. It's a pattern that's creating chaos for the school district.

    Impact on schools

    "In the last five weeks, we're down about almost 100 students," said Jeffrey Smith, superintendent of the Balsz Elementary School District.

    He says the state reimburses the district about $5,000 per child.

    "The hundred students that we've lost translate into, I believe, a half-a-million dollars," he said.

    The school year ended last Friday. During the summer break, more students are expected to leave town. If the district loses too much funding, it could be forced to cut teachers. Smith's also concerned about how the exodus will impact surrounding neighborhoods.

    "It can blight a community," the superintendent said. "So you have apartments that are less and less full. Businesses close down. So we're very concerned about what effect this will have on the economy in this area."

    But isn't the economic impact offset by the money taxpayers will save on social services? Probably not.

    Judy Gans studies the economics of immigration at the University of Arizona. She says the state doesn't have a surplus of young, low-skilled workers. So, if Arizona kicks out all the illegal immigrants, and replaces them with Americans from other states, taxpayers will still have to subside the low-skilled workers.

    "Any low-skilled worker generally is going to pay less in taxes than they consume in social services," Gans said.

    Before the recession, Gans says immigrant labor helped fuel growth in construction, manufacturing and the hotel industry.

    "One needs to be really careful about sort of thinking we can parse this and get rid of certain categories of workers without hurting the whole industry," she said.

    Impact on businesses

    The music is still upbeat at this strip mall in an immigrant neighborhood, but businesses here are suffering because so many Hispanics have left town. Francisco Noriega works at a jewelry store.

    "People are afraid to go out now, you know what I mean? They don't want to spend money in case of an emergency," he said.

    Noriega estimates his business has gone down about 70-80 percent.

    Noriega is a U.S. citizen. The departure of his customers -- many of whom are undocumented -- could cost him his job.

    "It's affecting every single one of us, really, a lot," he said.

    And it's expected to get worse for local businesses next month. During a recent coffee talk at an elementary school, a group of 40 undocumented parents were asked, "How many of you will leave town if the law goes into effect at the end of July?" They all raised their hands.

    #2
    Lets see illegals going back to Mexico on there own Seems like the Arizona law is working. Good for them. Bad for the other states.

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      #3
      sounds like it might be working.....

      the economy will recover -- just look at the oil towns in Texas.

      When oil booms, no one wants to work at Target for $7.50 an hour because they can work in the patch.

      So Target raises wages and competes with the field jobs.

      supply and demand, supply and demand.

      short term pain for long term gain

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        #4
        Yea this just seems terrible to me.

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          #5
          if they are undocumented then they NEED to leave.

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            #6
            Yeap..... sounds like, now that the problem may move into their cities.... Illegals are
            a bad thing.... if everyone did this, or even 49 of the states.... let them all go
            to California.... and lets see how that experiment would work out..

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              #7
              Originally posted by Atfulldraw View Post
              sounds like it might be working.....

              the economy will recover -- just look at the oil towns in Texas.

              When oil booms, no one wants to work at Target for $7.50 an hour because they can work in the patch.

              So Target raises wages and competes with the field jobs.

              supply and demand, supply and demand.

              short term pain for long term gain
              As long as oil isn't going, "Boom!"

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                #8
                so, a baby sitter [leticia munoz] who makes 400.00 a month[cash] will now go back to mexico, with her child. this is going to cost the school 5000.00 per child. the school has lost a half a million so far in funding from the state. i hope that you see what i'm getting at. the babysitter has been here ten years, not payed taxes, but put her kid in state run schools. so, if there are 12 million "undocumented" workers here in the country, that comes up to......sorry, my math is just not that good.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bryan sandlin View Post
                  so, a baby sitter [leticia munoz] who makes 400.00 a month[cash] will now go back to mexico, with her child. this is going to cost the school 5000.00 per child. the school has lost a half a million so far in funding from the state. i hope that you see what i'm getting at. the babysitter has been here ten years, not payed taxes, but put her kid in state run schools. so, if there are 12 million "undocumented" workers here in the country, that comes up to......sorry, my math is just not that good.
                  My math is kinda bad too. How many illegal kids will it take to even out the $2.5 billion Arizona loses each year on services to illegals? You reckon there are 500,000 illegal kids in school in Arizona?

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                    #10
                    My heart bleeds for these poor wets. No sympathy from me and no PC either. I am glad one state finally found the gonads to do what needed doing without worrying about what the freaking illegals thought.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bryan sandlin View Post
                      so, a baby sitter [leticia munoz] who makes 400.00 a month[cash] will now go back to mexico, with her child. this is going to cost the school 5000.00 per child. the school has lost a half a million so far in funding from the state. i hope that you see what i'm getting at. the babysitter has been here ten years, not payed taxes, but put her kid in state run schools. so, if there are 12 million "undocumented" workers here in the country, that comes up to......sorry, my math is just not that good.
                      I agree with your last statement, but I'm not so sure which side you stand on.

                      I don't know where you get your numbers, but statistically....

                      Her child was likely born for free in a hospital right next to my room -- but I paid for my child's birth.
                      Her child likely got free immunizations -- I paid for my kid's.
                      Her kid probably got before and after school child care -- I paid for my kid's.
                      Her kid probably gets free breakfasts and lunches -- I pay for my kid's.
                      I have one child -- she probably has at least three.

                      Her money probably went back to Mexico -- my tax money goes to Mexicans.

                      Most schools are overcrowded, and some of that money goes to pay the extra teachers we have to have for ESL classes.

                      You follow?

                      You see the little temp buildings outside of the main school buildings??

                      That means we don't have enough room -- fewer students means fewer teachers in the near future, but it also means lower student-to-teacher ratios in the long term.

                      That's good for my kid and yours. Even if you don't like the policy.
                      Last edited by Atfulldraw; 06-24-2010, 08:36 PM.

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                        #12
                        Uhhh it says the district is reimbursed 5000 dollars per student that they lose, so the more illegals they lose the more money they make

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                          #13
                          can they implement that in texas? it would be great..

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                            #14
                            At $5,000 per student, the TAXPAYERS will save a freaking fortune by not paying to educate illegals.

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                              #15
                              I'm writing in Jan Brewer for Texas govenor this year. We could use someone who walks with a set. Think we could talk her into moving?

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