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    #31
    The question is what is it that you want out of a new bow. It sounds like you already probably have a couple of bows that will do the job fine. Do you want more speed? More let off? Quieter? Softer shooting? More forgiving?

    Now I will bite on some of the other stuff. I have a ton of bows just because I have to try them. Most of the stuff I want to try is not in stock at every store so I just buy them and then keep shooting them if I like them. I also have a friend that shoots and does a lot with Drury. He shoots what the send him and it usually sucks at least to him.

    Now the things I can understand people wanting, speed, quiet and accuracy (tunability with broadheads).

    I do not understand hand shock, easy draw, and soft valley.

    I guess if you shot targets for a living those things would matter. I cannot imagine hand shock mattering to anyone except maybe my wife. How hard can a bow really kick?

    Now on to speed. Plain and simple speed kills. Now I do not advocate speed at any price. Super light arrows to get a 60lb bow is not sufficient. I am talking speed at 6gr/lb or more. Speed is your best friend and to me the only downside to speed is that the bows are not really forgiving and you must practice to be adequate with them. They have low brace heights and aggressive cams but, if you can handle them there is no substitute. Not saying you cannot kill without it but you cannot tell me that there is an advantage to a 250fps arrow versus a 300 fps arrow.

    Now I have had all of the bowtechs and I really like them. I also happen to have the fastest Hoyt made and both of the fastest Mathews bows made. I have made custom bows by interchanging cams and cable and limbs and everything in between.

    The only bow that will come out of the box and would be tame enough for almost everyone to shoot would be one of the Bowtechs and to be more specific it would be one of the older 2 cam Bowtechs. They are the only bow I have had shoot over 315fps in hunting attire with a 29" draw length, 70lb draw weight and a 440gr arrow at 65% let off. This includes a peep real string silencers and no tricks.

    Now the fastest bow I have is the Blackmax2 but I shoot it with the turbo cam which is 50% letoff. It shoots my 460gr arrows over 330 fps at 29". I shoot 3-49 A/C/C's out of everything.

    My Hoyt Supertec at 80#'s also shoots over 315 with 3-60's but it is at 80lbs.

    I was able to shoot lights out with all of them but, I have been shooting the fastest bow I can get my hands on so I shoot the Blackmax2. This particular bow with 50% let off is not for everyone though.

    So depending on what you are wanting out of them will totally depend on the bow you want. IF you want fast I would get a Bowtech. If you want the soft shooting quiet bows then the Mathews definately have more of an advantage there.

    Also just an FYI my Blackmax 2 shoots terrible with a 80% let off cam and at 65% it is not much better. It is much more accurate and over 20fps faster with the turbo cam.

    Now why speed? Well I do a lot of hunting on foot, rattling and or stalking. I have a rangefinder but, it is not always that convenient to stop and use. With a super fast bow I can shoot up to 40yds on 1 pin. There is about a 2.5" difference from 15yards to 40 yards. I can handle that. I won't shoot at a whitetail over 40yards so I shoot 1 pin in the field. The speed 100% eliminates any mistakes from using the wrong pin and it also gives me a cushion should I have to guess at the yardage.

    You will not see many deer jump the string at 330fps either out to 30yards.

    You can also do the math for KE and you will find that speed combined with a decent weight arrow will crash through almost anything. Not that we want to make bad shots but, it is nice to know you always have a small cushion working with you.

    Now this is just my .02 and you can probably tell I am a speed FREAK!

    Speed Kills!

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      #32
      All I know is I hate it that the new bows come out during deer season and not before. If it was before season you would at least have time to set it up, practice alot and maybe even get a pig or two to break it in before opening morning. When I bought my switchback I didn't know that the xt would be out 2 or 3 months later or I would have waited. But I love my ride and don't have a desire to sell just to get the xt. Find one that fits you and go get something with it.

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        #33
        You will not see many deer jump the string at 330fps either out to 30yards.
        Any deer, unless hurt or sick, can out jump "any" bow on the market.

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          #34
          I shoot over 50 deer a year and I am yet to have one jump the string under 30 yards. Maybe I am just lucky? Maybe they move just not enough?

          I can tell you that I have never had a deer duck an arrow over 320 fps. I have had plenty jump them and duck them at 250fps back in the good ol days.

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            #35
            "You will not see many deer jump the string at 330fps either out to 30yards."

            "Speed Kills!" - Qzilla

            Hate to bust your bubble but silence kills. A bow at 330fps that sounds like a .22 won't kill to many deer. Not saying your bow is loud but I will take silence over speed any day. And as stated above, a healthy deer can jump that string at 10yds my friend. 400fps is still slower than a deers reaction time.

            Tim, shoot as many brands as possible. You will know when you find your bow. Shoot Mathews, Bowtech, Hoyt, Ross and on and on. If you have to go to 4 different shops to do it. You will be very disappointed with a bow that doesn't quite fit your form and style. I shoot an XT....why? I shot the Trykon and Bowtechs....the XT fit me and felt like an extension of my arm. Good luck on your search.

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              #36
              Originally posted by duck or bleed View Post
              What an appropriate thread to re-introduce myself to the new and improved site! I guess the question I would ask is do you want what all the guys on the outdoor channel are shooting because it was given to them, or the bow that gives you way more for your money? Ever wonder why Jay Gregory shoots an old school design Black Max, when all these great new parallel limb designs are out there? It's because it's the only bow in the line up that he can get the speeds out of? But don't hate me for my opinions!
              It should. Back in high school I had a 98 and my buddies had 95s 96s and a 92. All our stuff was interchangeable


              Ike

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                #37
                Originally posted by BigTex.308 View Post
                It should. Back in high school I had a 98 and my buddies had 95s 96s and a 92. All our stuff was interchangeable


                Ike
                Wow dug up an old thread

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                  #38
                  I was thinking " Holy Cow, they're bringing back the Switchback XT!!"

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                    #39
                    I drive a chevy, I suggest a chevy!
                    I shoot muzzies, I suggest muzzies!
                    I have an igloo, I suggest a yeti!
                    I shoot Mathews, I suggest a MATHEWS!!! : )

                    Just stirrin the pot. Go shoot em you'll know what you like. Good luck!


                    Ps I shoot Mathews

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Evenin'only View Post
                      I drive a chevy, I suggest a chevy!
                      I shoot muzzies, I suggest muzzies!
                      I have an igloo, I suggest a yeti!
                      I shoot Mathews, I suggest a MATHEWS!!! : )

                      Just stirrin the pot. Go shoot em you'll know what you like. Good luck!


                      Ps I shoot Mathews
                      Were Yeti coolers even around in 2006?

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Hookem2255 View Post
                        Were Yeti coolers even around in 2006?
                        Lol, didn't even notice any dates I was just funnin!! Open mouth insert foot

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                          #42
                          I didn't realize posts from 06 were still around, I thought we had a big crash since then

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                            #43
                            Still shooting my old xt love it

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