When it comes to GW, I don't think there are many "warnings" given out to anyone. THe first year of a change in regs they will, but after that it is a ticket. Intent has very little or probably nothing to do with it. Sorry it happened, and this reminded me to make sure it all gets filled out right. I still have some questions on processing and final destination though.
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Originally posted by kramer View PostIf this had happened to you, you broke the law....what good would come of that??? If you rant and rave enough, you should be let go?? A couple of things about this thread really dont sit well with me:
A thread that has the potential to and has several negative remarks about LEO/GW's should not have made it past page 1.
I am quite shocked that the leadership of TBH has allowed this thread to continue and has also made negative/questioning remarks about LEO/GW.
The longer this continues to go on, I see 2 things happening. There will probably be NO leniency if a court date is requested by the offender and GW's and LEO will probably make EVERY effort to stop vehicles with TBH stickers on them and people WILL be scrutinized.
Ignorance of the law is NO defense. I claim to be no expert, but its every hunters responsibility to know the laws and to abide by them.
I for one can not say enough thanks to the GW's and LEO's out there. They have the most thankless jobs on the planet and many are forced to be cut and dried due to the majority of people they run into on a daily basis.
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Originally posted by Spineshot View PostI guess, the main thing I am taking away from this situation is to keep it "strictly business". No small talk, don't offer up any more information than is necessary.
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Originally posted by kramer View PostIf this had happened to you, you broke the law....what good would come of that??? If you rant and rave enough, you should be let go?? A couple of things about this thread really dont sit well with me:
A thread that has the potential to and has several negative remarks about LEO/GW's should not have made it past page 1.
I am quite shocked that the leadership of TBH has allowed this thread to continue and has also made negative/questioning remarks about LEO/GW.
The longer this continues to go on, I see 2 things happening. There will probably be NO leniency if a court date is requested by the offender and GW's and LEO will probably make EVERY effort to stop vehicles with TBH stickers on them and people WILL be scrutinized.
Ignorance of the law is NO defense. I claim to be no expert, but its every hunters responsibility to know the laws and to abide by them.
I for one can not say enough thanks to the GW's and LEO's out there. They have the most thankless jobs on the planet and many are forced to be cut and dried due to the majority of people they run into on a daily basis.
In fact, if you READ a little closer, you would have seen this shortly after I wrote what you originally quoted:
Originally posted by Hillary View PostI would of just been pretty upset.
It was a pretty shocking outcome of events, IMO.
It would of thrown me for a loop, I don't think it would have been intentional or me attacking a person, but I guess I would have been defensive....
Good point though, and this "negative thread" has brought it to my attention to second guess a lot of actions that I would have showed...
This thread also has the potential to have many more negative remarks that what has been said.
The issue I am stressing, and that I will say AGAIN, is that this is an unforunate experience that is being displayed on TBH, not to bash, but so that everyone reading it can learn from it and not make the mistake in the future.
That is what the "leadership" on this site is trying to put forth.
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Originally posted by kramer View PostThe longer this continues to go on, I see 2 things happening. There will probably be NO leniency if a court date is requested by the offender and GW's and LEO will probably make EVERY effort to stop vehicles with TBH stickers on them and people WILL be scrutinized.
BWAHAAHAHA!
OK seriously, I respect you opinion (even if I poked a little fun at it). As posted earlier, bowhunters already have a preferred status in the eyes of law enforcement because they are "doing it the hard way". I honestly don't think I'm putting people with TBH stickers on their back windshields in any potential legal peril. If they "throw the book at me" for discussing this and educating / reminding the several thousand who have read this thread so far, that would be a pretty big diservice. If anything, I feel like I'm helping people to not make the same mistake(s) and actually helping TP&W! Maybe they will have Carter Smith (TP&W President) send me a thank you card.
Of course, I reserve the right to be wrong. I already called, they will not have any info on my ticket until Friday.
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Originally posted by kramer View PostA thread that has the potential to and has several negative remarks about LEO/GW's should not have made it past page 1.
Originally posted by kramer View PostThe longer this continues to go on, I see 2 things happening. There will probably be NO leniency if a court date is requested by the offender and GW's and LEO will probably make EVERY effort to stop vehicles with TBH stickers on them and people WILL be scrutinized.
Originally posted by kramer View PostIgnorance of the law is NO defense. I claim to be no expert, but its every hunters responsibility to know the laws and to abide by them.
Originally posted by kramer View PostI for one can not say enough thanks to the GW's and LEO's out there. They have the most thankless jobs on the planet and many are forced to be cut and dried due to the majority of people they run into on a daily basis.
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Maybe those that think Leggy got what was coming to him and would have written the tickets themselves should put their TBH stickers on the right side of the back windshield to alert statewide GWs that the hunter in this vehicle supports them.
Those that think Leggy should have gotten a warning can put their stickers on the left side of the back windshield and take their chances when they are pulled over by a GW.
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Well I bet if you called in on a guy that you thought did something wrong and he got a warning you would be complaining about that. The simple fact is you were wrong. You need to know the law and obey it. The GW did his job. Its not about if you are a poacher or not. Remember he does not know you from adam. He does not do it cause he did not like you. Thats his job. You can bash them all you want but the fact is it was your mistake.. It is time that people just pay up and take responsibility for their actions. The cost is 25-500 set by the judge so good luck on that. If you had to deal with what those guys do you might see it differently. Just a thought.
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Originally posted by Dale Moser View PostIt's un-fortunate that people feel this way. When what you should be taking away from this situation is to tag all your deer properly, fill out the log correctly, and don't process the deer past quartering until you get home.
Most importantly check that your plates are on the trailer before you leave the ranch.
DJ
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Originally posted by Legdog View Postfunny Shane... I guess sticker sales will now go up as almost everyone puts them on the driver side! Everyone is gonna go peel 'em off now!
Uh-oh. I sense that I have stumbled into the diabolical plan...... you guys will do ANYTHING to sell a few more stickers!
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