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    #16
    Pie... I like pie!!!!!!!!!

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      #17
      Does following thru the bird change the distance for the lead, as opposed to pointing in one fixed position and pulling the trigger? My guess is you would need to account for .25 seconds of reaction time if not following thru. The bird would travel 14 feet (58ft/s * .25s = 14.6 feet) by the time your brain told your finger to pull.....

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        #18
        Just a skosh. If the wind is blowing with them, then you add a smidgin. If it is blowing against them, then subtract a smidgin.
        Last edited by JLively; 09-11-2009, 12:07 PM.

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          #19
          40mph X 5,280 feet = 211,200 feet per hour / 60 minutes = 3520 feet per minute /60 seconds = 58.67 feet per second

          40 yards X 3 = 120 feet / 1300 fps = 0.092307692307692307692307692307692 seconds

          58.67fps X 0.092307692307692307692307692307692 sec = 5.4156923076923076923076923076517 feet

          Get in front of the beak and shoot where he's gonna be, not where he is.

          Oops! Wayno beat me to it.
          Last edited by Shane; 09-11-2009, 12:15 PM.

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            #20
            Not sure on the speed of doves, nor the distance to target, but I do know that on station 8 on the skeet field, it's a 4 foot lead. I think the targets on the skeet field are supposed to be something like 21 yards but don't hold me to that. So, if the skeet targets are roughly 20 yards, and you lead 4 feet, then at 40 yards, you would lead 8 feet, given same speed travel. That said, I feel like doves fly much faster than skeet, so maybe more than 8 feet, who knows?

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              #21
              I just keep shooting till I'm empty, cuss, refuel with beer.

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                #22
                I would like a pirece of Pie......

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by txfireguy2003 View Post
                  Not sure on the speed of doves, nor the distance to target, but I do know that on station 8 on the skeet field, it's a 4 foot lead. I think the targets on the skeet field are supposed to be something like 21 yards but don't hold me to that. So, if the skeet targets are roughly 20 yards, and you lead 4 feet, then at 40 yards, you would lead 8 feet, given same speed travel. That said, I feel like doves fly much faster than skeet, so maybe more than 8 feet, who knows?
                  I was going 60 down the highway a couple days ago and had a dove flying along right beside me for 100 yards or so. They can fly slower than that too though. Gotta have a radar gun mounted on your shotgun, I guess.

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                    #24
                    So let's say that everybody here was told the lead on every single bird they shoot at, right before they see the target. Does it matter? No, because distance/lead looks different to everyone, and IS different for everyone depending on their gun speed. If you focus on the bird, not the gun, and make a good move to the bird and a good mount, your hand-eye coordination will take care of the "lead" and the bird will go down every time.

                    You dont hear about quarterbacks leading receivers based on how fast they run a 40. They just look at him and throw the ball, and his athleticism allows it to be on target.

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                      #25
                      What Wayno and Shane said.


                      ...now I just need to have an Excel spreadsheet open on my Iphone while dove hunting, and I'll never miss again.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Shane View Post
                        40mph X 5,280 feet = 211,200 feet per hour / 60 minutes = 3520 feet per minute /60 seconds = 58.67 feet per second

                        40 yards X 3 = 120 feet / 1300 fps = 0.092307692307692307692307692307692 seconds

                        58.67fps X 0.092307692307692307692307692307692 sec = 5.4156923076923076923076923076517 feet

                        Get in front of the beak and shoot where he's gonna be, not where he is.

                        Oops! Wayno beat me to it.
                        All looks good until you simply divide by 1300. That load is slowing down the instant it leaces your barrel. By the time it gets to 40 yards, it's only moving 1000 FPS, if that.

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                          #27
                          MMMMMM, pie.


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                            #28
                            Originally posted by bearintex View Post
                            All looks good until you simply divide by 1300. That load is slowing down the instant it leaces your barrel. By the time it gets to 40 yards, it's only moving 1000 FPS, if that.
                            Yeah, I thought about that, but I didn't want to try to figure out how to factor in the decelleration. Like texhunter83 said, it doesn't really matter, because it all boils down to hand/eye coordination and some AMAZING and lightning fast calculations going on behind the scenes in your brain anyway.

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                              #29
                              this problem is easily solved by purchasing a mojo and just waiting for the dove to land before shooting!!!

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                                #30
                                This is tooooo complicated. I'm going to the next post.

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