High Fence question

[trophy8]

I think we're on cats now FYI

So kick a kitten or hold a cat underwater etc.

But I like puppies and wouldn’t kick one. Not fond of cats

[RiverRat1]

This is the dumbest argument ever lol.

This entire post makes me want to kick a puppy. Lol

I think we're on cats now FYI

So kick a kitten or hold a cat underwater etc.

[kyle1974]

somehow you know it's high fence but claim the people on the property are too dumb to figure it out? The fence would greatly increase the value of the lease, but the owner is being sneaky about it? makes no sense. either way, it's all irrelevant. 1100 acres is a small area of land that a deer can cross completely in a couple of hours. the deer are absolutely captive deer, no matter if there's 8 or 800 imaginary lines on the place.

it's not "somehow" I know, I know because the ranch I lease is 17,000 acres and surrounds it on all 4 sides, and I drive all 4 sides of it on a regular basis.

you're right, that entire place IS high fenced. that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying if a guy shoots a deer on one of those tracts and enters it into a low fence competition, what happens?


I will draft a letter and leave it on their entrance with your concerns so they can be fully abreast of the situation here on TBH

[KingsX]

Yes I think so. Since some think the size of a place doesn't matter, I'd say you are correct.

You have now made one of the dumbest comments in this thread.
It’s hypothetical at best and not reality. Wish folks would debate reality vs whatever they can dream up to win the internet that day.
Guess we need to clarify and explain/spell everything out now! When someone says it doesn’t matter what size a place is most people know it is a hunting ranch that’s being talked about. Not the entire United States of America and its cities together under one Highfence and ocean enclosure that doesn’t exist. If one day it does I guess an asterisk * will be needed by all entries into the UnitedStates part of the record books. Lol.
I like a good train wreck but dang!

[trophy8]

Then there is no longer any free range deer in America

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This is the dumbest argument ever lol.

This entire post makes me want to kick a puppy. Lol

[rolylane6]

If you apply a number to it, its high fenced. If you are really talking true free range, the number of property lines the deer can cross is infinity.

Then there is no longer any free range deer in America

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[trophy8]

are roads the buffer? if i have a perfect square piece of LF property with county roads on all 4 sides, and all of my neighbors across the roads are HF, am i good to call myself LF because the deer can run down the middle of the road until the HF stops?

No. High fence is high fence. This isn’t a matter of opinion. It’s a fact. Completely surrounded by high fence it’s still high fenced.

[trophy8]

Exactly as I laid it out. Has nothing to do with deeds. OP is referring to someone who has NO RIGHT to hunt the other parcels, No common ownership, can't even touch the other properties without trespassing. We are not talking about 10 acres. I would ask the same question, but say it is 20K acres, inside of a 100K acre place. If I only own the 20K acre and can only step foot on the 20K acres, but the deer can roam the full 100K acres, are they not free to leave my 20K acres whenever they want? So, aren't they free to come and go off my property? I would pose the same question to the island of Hawaii. Isn't that a contained property with preventative boundaries? Again, not saying I don't disagree with you, just trying to explain "How this is a question"

100k acres completely surrounded by high fence is still high fenced. Very very very simple concept. Lol

[bullets13]

Other than trespassing on to someone else’s property maybe?

8 different tracts in that 1100 acres. So I guess if you want to trespass you could find out it’s all high fence, but I’ve talked with some of the people hunting there and they have no idea because they’ve never seen it.

How many property lines does a deer have to be able to cross until it’s fair chase?

somehow you know it's high fence but claim the people on the property are too dumb to figure it out? The fence would greatly increase the value of the lease, but the owner is being sneaky about it? makes no sense. either way, it's all irrelevant. 1100 acres is a small area of land that a deer can cross completely in a couple of hours. the deer are absolutely captive deer, no matter if there's 8 or 800 imaginary lines on the place.

[Gclyde28]

How many property lines does a deer have to be able to cross until it’s fair chase?

If you apply a number to it, its high fenced. If you are really talking true free range, the number of property lines the deer can cross is infinity.

[rladner]

I didn't know deer could read property deeds or tax records and see that someone else owned the property in the middle that had LF around it.

So what's stopping a HF operation from putting a 10, 20 (or whatever size floats your boat) LF plot right in the center of his ranch (of whatever size) and calling it a LF kill?

Again, how in the world is this even a question?

Exactly as I laid it out. Has nothing to do with deeds. OP is referring to someone who has NO RIGHT to hunt the other parcels, No common ownership, can't even touch the other properties without trespassing. We are not talking about 10 acres. I would ask the same question, but say it is 20K acres, inside of a 100K acre place. If I only own the 20K acre and can only step foot on the 20K acres, but the deer can roam the full 100K acres, are they not free to leave my 20K acres whenever they want? So, aren't they free to come and go off my property? I would pose the same question to the island of Hawaii. Isn't that a contained property with preventative boundaries? Again, not saying I don't disagree with you, just trying to explain "How this is a question"

[kyle1974]

I see. So as far as they “know” it’s only high fenced on that side.


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That 1100 acres is 100% high fenced. But tract to tract is not. And some of them honesty do not know. I tried to explain to one guy that it was and he absolutely argued about it. I just said “ok”.

[cpatterson]

LOL. Funny story about that. Until two years ago there was no gate.

6 miles of high fence and my landowner put up a cattle guard with a low fence gate next to it. It is a high fence gate now with some panels around the cattle guard.

So they all go through that section, but some of them don’t realize how far the high fence extends because that cattleguard is in the NE corner. So the guys who go in there have 1-2-3 neighbors past them that’s all low fence between.


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I see. So as far as they “know” it’s only high fenced on that side.


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[kyle1974]

High Fence question

How do they get to their tract within the high fence without going through a high fence gate?


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LOL. Funny story about that. Until two years ago there was no gate.

6 miles of high fence and my landowner put up a cattle guard with a low fence gate next to it. It is a high fence gate now with some panels around the cattle guard.

So they all go through that section, but some of them don’t realize how far the high fence extends because that cattleguard is in the NE corner. So the guys who go in there have 1-2-3 neighbors past them that’s all low fence between.


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[cpatterson]

Other than trespassing on to someone else’s property maybe?

8 different tracts in that 1100 acres. So I guess if you want to trespass you could find out it’s all high fence, but I’ve talked with some of the people hunting there and they have no idea because they’ve never seen it.

How many property lines does a deer have to be able to cross until it’s fair chase?

How do they get to their tract within the high fence without going through a high fence gate?


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