Trailboss - do not open this thread!

[coop2564]

you're probably right, it's only been an accepted methodoly for about 80 years.

the funny thing is the "science" against the science has absolutely no data to support any of their claims that radiometric dating isn't accurate.

what are you talking about the "starting point" being "different"? I'd like to see your explanation. As far as "orignial condition", we know that based on the strucuture of certain rocks, that certain conditions had to be present from an original melt (i.e. liquid/molten rock). the "assumption" is that an igneous rock on earth was once in liquid form to create the mineralogical and crystal structure. I guess if you assume rocks just popped into existance, then I see how you have an issue with it.

what is not to "buy"? I don't get why people think that recognizing the data that the earth is old somehow contradicts their religious beliefs.

SOTX, you need research something other than Ken Hovind's website...

By the way.... how long has God been there?

Cant tell you how many times I have already seen science and doctors that thought things were one way yet in time totaly change their mind. We dont know near what we think we know or even a % of what there is to know!
Kyle go to this site and look around probably wont matter to you but its another perspective. Cant hurt to have a open mind! God has giving us the time line of creation while there could be some small gaps its roughly 6 to 10 thousand yrs. You may not get how religious people dont believe the earth is old. Its because, if Im going to believe in a God Creator that created you and me and all you see around us. And I'm going to beleive the bible is his word given to us. Then I have to believe a God capable of such can surely get the bible worded exactly how he wanted it, not just partly right but total right. I cant have faith that Jesus, Gods son died for my redemption is right in the bible but the rest or other parts of it he just didnt get it right. How could a God that could balance the universe to where we can live on a tiny planet flying thru space and map our DNA and put us together with chemicals and elements and give us life. And time out every little detail so that we can continue to have life. How could he not know how old the earth is he made it! Maybe this will help you get how we dont place our faith in what a man or men have to say but what God has told us in his word.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-radiometric-dating-prove

[Tmag]

Many thanks to my ancestor, Uncle Ugboss for killing out the species!

Trailboss

Ug say him good snake cause him DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jerp]

I believe in following the evidence wherever it leads. Those on opposite ends of this argument many times do not. On one extreme you have those who have decided there is no God - that we somehow were formed from the primordial goo and hundreds of millions of years of evolution. Their belief is that science will eventually figure it out so there is no need to believe in any "creation myth". At the other end of the spectrum you have the "young earth" theorists who have decided, based on faith, that the creation story in the Bible is true, right down to it all happening over six 24 hour periods. Arguing with either of these factions is pointless -- the glasses they are looking through makes it impossible for them to objectively consider evidence that is contrary to their basic worldview. Real science is always open to vigorous debate, challenge and peer review. You don't get so married to a theory that you no longer look at new evidence. Consensus means nothing - we don't say water freezes at 32 F because a consensus of scientist thinks it's so. It's provable and repeatable. For that reason, I don't know how the origin of life question can ever be solved by science. On the other hand, scientific discoveries don't shake my faith in God or the Bible at all. I believe He created all things, but I'm humble enough to admit I may not understand the methods he used or how long it took.

[kyle1974]

Cant tell you how many times I have already seen science and doctors that thought things were one way yet in time totaly change their mind. We dont know near what we think we know or even a % of what there is to know!
Kyle go to this site and look around probably wont matter to you but its another perspective. Cant hurt to have a open mind! God has giving us the time line of creation while there could be some small gaps its roughly 6 to 10 thousand yrs. You may not get how religious people dont believe the earth is old. Its because, if Im going to believe in a God Creator that created you and me and all you see around us. And I'm going to beleive the bible is his word given to us. Then I have to believe a God capable of such can surely get the bible worded exactly how he wanted it, not just partly right but total right. I cant have faith that Jesus, Gods son died for my redemption is right in the bible but the rest or other parts of it he just didnt get it right. How could a God that could balance the universe to where we can live on a tiny planet flying thru space and map our DNA and put us together with chemicals and elements and give us life. And time out every little detail so that we can continue to have life. How could he not know how old the earth is he made it! Maybe this will help you get how we dont place our faith in what a man or men have to say but what God has told us in his word.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/arti...c-dating-prove

I'm not sure where you're going with this entire message..., but I think this makes my point proven... you think I'm not a Christian because I realize the earth is old....I don't understand why people believe this is an "either/or" type situation. That "timeline" which was originally determined by the Bishop Usher in the 17th century....

it's not even worth debating...


that's a big snake!

[coop2564]

I'm not sure where you're going with this entire message..., but I think this makes my point proven... you think I'm not a Christian because I realize the earth is old....I don't understand why people believe this is an "either/or" type situation.

I'm not saying your not a christian, you said you dont get why we dont believe in an older earth; I just gave you my reason to help you understand why. If you have time look around that site might give you some idea's that you havent thought of or heard of. I was just trying to answer your question.

[holdem]

It prolly sounded like a power stroke when it rattled.

[leebtattoos]

man, this whole big snake thing is starting to make for a fun thread to watch! better than watching the history channel

[jerp]

It prolly sounded like a power stroke when it rattled.

Oh yeah, well I think you're full of it. Prolly sounded like a Cummins
(let's see if we can change this from a theology debate to a diesel debate)

[kyle1974]

Oh yeah, well I think you're full of it. Prolly sounded like a Cummins
(let's see if we can change this from a theology debate to a diesel debate)

Ford Sucks.

[WCB]

Naw, it sounded like a Bowtech...

[flatlander]

That was one big snake,....

Now who wants to talkabout hunting with a crossbow on 40 acres behind high fence???

[Dusty]

it would really stink to find a snake so large that you wounldn't even bother shooting it with anything less than a howitzer!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I am certian that I would really be wetting myself if I saw that thing!

[Landrover]

i hate snakes!!!!!!!!!!

[DonBon]

What was the old saying,I hate live snakes,dead snakes and sticks that look like snakes

[Zookeeper]

I'm not sure where you're going with this entire message..., but I think this makes my point proven... you think I'm not a Christian because I realize the earth is old....I don't understand why people believe this is an "either/or" type situation. That "timeline" which was originally determined by the Bishop Usher in the 17th century....

it's not even worth debating...


that's a big snake!

Way over my pay grade. But have a short story.

A group of scientist had a meeting with God and told him that the people did not need him any more. That they had figured out how to do everything he could do. Even create life in thier on image. God said well then show me then I will let you be. The scientist began by explaining the they woulg first start out with about a 150 lbs of dirt. At this point God broke in and said wait a minute. "Get your own dirt"

Personally I think man has only been around for 6 to 10 thousand years, But I am sure glad that snake is over 60million years old and not around today.