Zimbabwe’s most beloved lion, Cecil, killed by a trophy hunter

[Texastaxi]

Awesome....guilty until proved innocent
Sounds like a club worth supporting.

No joke!

I thought they would have said they are helping with the investigation and if the suspects are guilty, they would be banned, or whatever.

[1369]

Got this email from SCI today:News Release

July 29, 2015

Contact: media@safariclub.org

For Immediate Release

SCI Suspends Membership of Hunter and Professional Hunter Involved in Death of Cecil


Washington, D.C. – Safari Club International (SCI) supports a full and thorough investigation of the circumstances surrounding the death of Cecil the lion in Zimbabwe. SCI has imposed immediate emergency membership suspensions of both the involved hunter and his guide/professional hunter, and they will remain in place pending the outcome of an investigation.

Safari Club International condemns unlawful and unethical hunting practices. SCI supports only legal hunting practices and those who comply with all applicable hunting rules and regulations, and SCI believes that those who intentionally take wildlife illegally should be prosecuted and punished to the maximum extent allowed by law.

Safari Club International is a 501(c)4 corporation, has approximately 47,000 members worldwide, many of whom also hunt worldwide. Safari Club's missions include the conservation of wildlife, protection of the hunter’s rights, and education of the public concerning hunting and its use as a conservation and management tool.









Safari Club International – First For Hunters is the leader in protecting the freedom to hunt and in promoting wildlife conservation worldwide. SCI’s approximately 200 Chapters represent all 50 of the United States as well as 106 other countries. SCI’s proactive leadership in a host of cooperative wildlife conservation, outdoor education and humanitarian programs, with the SCI Foundation and other conservation groups, research institutions and government agencies, empowers sportsmen to be contributing community members and participants in sound wildlife management and conservation. Visit the home page www.safariclub.org or call (520) 620-1220 for more information

Awesome....guilty until proved innocent
Sounds like a club worth supporting.

So, membership suspension pending the outcome of an investigation = conviction of guilt?

[Traildust]

So, membership suspension pending the outcome of an investigation = conviction of guilt?

In SCI eyes it seems that way. How else would you see it?

[OleTomTalker]

In SCI eyes it seems that way. How else would you see it?

They suspended membership until investigation is done. If found guilty, terminate. If not found guilty, reinstate.

That's what I took from it.

[Traildust]

Hunter and ph are definitely guilty of having poor judgement.
Especially the ph. He saw $$$.

I'm not familiar with safari hunting. Unless the hunter knew that the PH was breaking the law or whatever.....how did the hunter used poor judgment?

Are there laws about luring animals out of the preserve? How do you know the lion wasn't already off the reserve? Not picking a fight, just trying to understand how the hunter is at fault.

[1369]

In SCI eyes it seems that way. How else would you see it?

They suspended membership until investigation is done. If found guilty, terminate. If not found guilty, reinstate.

That's what I took from it.

What he ^ said.

Similar to an LEO being suspended from field work if a suspect was shot, pending the outcome of an investigation.

[dsb6446]

i have no urge or want to kill a lion but saying that if the hunter paid to kill a lion and guide did some shady stuff how is that hunters fault. here is the question if it wasn't a beloved lion is it ok then? i am torn i don't really like to kill anything i don't eat. but i will shoot a bobcat in a heart beat or a coyote. i have seen post on here from people who have gone to africa and killed lions. this was an old end of life lion whom lost his pride to 3 years ago to a younger lion. I WOULD NOT HAVE SHOT ANY LION IT IS JUST NOT MY THING. plus 55,000 there is no way. it looks bad but from what i have read he just shot a lion until someone can prove he illegally baited. right? i bet that have video.

[Traildust]

They suspended membership until investigation is done. If found guilty, terminate. If not found guilty, reinstate.

That's what I took from it.

Right....punish him before the investigation is complete.
If it comes back that the hunter is in the clear....I'd tell SCI to FOAD!

[systemnt]

right or wrong.. he's definitely not getting any support from SCI...by suspending him on allegations and not convictions..

[Traildust]

right or wrong.. he's definitely not getting any support from SCI...by suspending him on allegations and not convictions..

That's my point. If he was doing some underhanded shiat....I hope he goes down. SCI putting out a statement like that is nothing more than a knee-jerk PC action.

[SwampRabbit]

That's my point. If he was doing some underhanded shiat....I hope he goes down. SCI putting out a statement like that is nothing more than a knee-jerk PC action.

How exactly does a membership suspension from SCI impact him?

Note that the whole innocent, until proven guilty in our legal system still doesn't prevent people from remaining jailed until their peers can rule that they are indeed not-guilty.

[IbeHuntn]

Would shoot, wouldnt shoot ? Are you kidding, i would shoot Simba if he walked out in front of me

[Landrover]

So, membership suspension pending the outcome of an investigation = conviction of guilt?

Bingo!

They suspended membership until investigation is done. If found guilty, terminate. If not found guilty, reinstate.

That's what I took from it.

You took the right thing from this first step.

What he ^ said.

Similar to an LEO being suspended from field work if a suspect was shot, pending the outcome of an investigation.

U got it. Most don't realize that SCI has a HUGE network around the globe and the information gathering process is in full effect by the organization. If the hunter is deemed "not at fault" the hunter defense fund/system/support will go into full effect.

[Ætheling]

First World Problems.

This is a quote from a local interviewed in Zim I just saw on a news story. Does put these liberals in perspective. LOL

"Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange."

[Ætheling]

http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/07/cecil-lion-boko-haram/