Whisker Biscuit

[SWAMPUS]

My son is getting into Bow hunting with me now (12) and I was wondering about the Whisker Biscuit type rest for him not to knock off his arrow when pulling it back--Finger Tab--Trigger type didn't work for him.

Do they mess up the fletches--Feather Eastons--or should I go with the small plastic fletches I see so many going with these days? Pro's and Con's?

He is a good shot on target--Just Honing skills in the back yard for now prepping for the season!

Thanks in advance for your ideas!

SWAMPUS and son!

[Arquero]

For some reason, this is one of those topics that always seem to get folks stirred up around here. I'd say if he's not knocking it off of whatever he's shooting now; just stick to it. If he is knocking it off then give it a try.

[DaveS903]

I use one. I can shoot 3 inch groups at 30 yards (what I consider my max range). If I was a competitive shooter, I would probably try all kinds of rests until I found the best/most accurate one for my specific shooting style. But I'm not so the Whisker Biscuit works for me. Some people use the blazers (smaller stiffer vanes) and some use 4 or 5 inch plastic vanes - I use both and both work equally well for me.

[theluckyhunter]

i have always shot a whisker biscuit. a little less forgiving but not much. i shoot feathers too and it doesnt do any damage to them. but i have been wanting to try bowtechs new hostage rest

[Two Kicker]

Shot one for years and had the vanes pull loose only after 6 months or so of continous shooting.

[CaptainDave]

There are many positives and a few negatives about the WB, and it has been a debate for some on this board in the past.

However, I think the WB is probably one of the most widely used hunting rest on the market. Even many of the folks who don't currently use one, have used one in the past at one time or another.

[Ricky T]

It would be a good rest for him, Swamp.

[Leftridge]

I think I have one laying around you can have if you like.. I personally think it makes a ton of noise when drawing.. And you would only notice that when sitting in a treestand with it dead quite. I wouldn't say it cost me the shot at a deer but the deer heard it, I moved a bit, and the deer hauled..Anyway, its the quick shot drop tine, not the cheap one. If you try it and like it, keep it..If you dont just send it back to me so I can pass it on to someone else..

[Horitexan]

If he's capable (i.e. old enough) to learn to keep the arrow on a drop-away rest, then I'd stay away from the Whusker Biscuit. I know there are people who like them and they will work, but they just don't work AS well as a drop away does; and it's a lot harder to switch later on, than it is to switch early on and at a young age. I've seen 7 & 8 year-old kids shooting and hunting with drop aways with no problems, so I'm sure a 12 year-old will pick it up in no time. If he gets comfortable shooting with one before he goes hunting he won't have any trouble with the arrow falling off the rest. I stalk hogs through thick brush and in the dark all year long with a drop away- I've never had an arrow 'fall off the rest.' So, I just don't understand why a Whisker Biscuit is even necessary- it's just a little easier. Easier isn't usually "better."

The advantage of a WB is ease of use and that's it. In other words, it's the lazy man's rest. I don't mean to slam those that use it- if you like it and it works for you, that's great- but it is just NOT as accurate as a drop away and your son will never shoot as good a group with a WB as he will with a drop-away. If you need proof of that, look at professional shooters. There isn't a single professional target/3D shooter that uses a WB. If the Biscuit worked well enough to be competative, there would surely be shooters using it.

Now, for hunting we have a lot bigger 'X' to shoot at, for sure; but the further out the anmal gets, the smaller our 'X' gets. So, accuracy is still important. So, WHY NOT use the type of rest that prduces the most accurate results? Sure, it takes a little practice and getting used to. Anything that's worth something takes some work and effort. As long as you're willing to work with your boy, he shouldn't have any problem using a drop away and, in the long run, he'll be a better shot for it! I would think you'd want him to be able to reach his full potential as an archer. If he has an interest in target or 3D shooting he's going to have to shoot a dropw away eventually, so why not start him off shooting one? That way he won't have to make a difficult change later.

I hope this helps you make your decision.

I do not mean for anything I said to offend anyone who shoots a WB- it's purely my opinion and no more valid than anyone else's. I don't want to start a battle of words, which so often happens when this subject comes up.

[theluckyhunter]

i did forget the noise. my 8 that i shot this year busted me the night before when drawing back. do you know how hard it is to hold a 70 pound bow half drawn for 5 minutes? the next morning i had him in at 5 yards and had walked to 8 when i shot. i lifted the arrow off the whiskers with my index finger.

[SaltwaterSlick]

If he's capable (i.e. old enough) to learn to keep the arrow on a drop-away rest, then I'd stay away from the Whusker Biscuit. I know there are people who like them and they will work, but they just don't work AS well as a drop away does; and it's a lot harder to switch later on, than it is to switch early on and at a young age. I've seen 7 & 8 year-old kids shooting and hunting with drop aways with no problems, so I'm sure a 12 year-old will pick it up in no time. If he gets comfortable shooting with one before he goes hunting he won't have any trouble with the arrow falling off the rest. I stalk hogs through thick brush and in the dark all year long with a drop away- I've never had an arrow 'fall off the rest.' So, I just don't understand why a Whisker Biscuit is even necessary- it's just a little easier. Easier isn't usually "better."

The advantage of a WB is ease of use and that's it. In other words, it's the lazy man's rest. I don't mean to slam those that use it- if you like it and it works for you, that's great- but it is just NOT as accurate as a drop away and your son will never shoot as good a group with a WB as he will with a drop-away. If you need proof of that, look at professional shooters. There isn't a single professional target/3D shooter that uses a WB. If the Biscuit worked well enough to be competative, there would surely be shooters using it.

Now, for hunting we have a lot bigger 'X' to shoot at, for sure; but the further out the anmal gets, the smaller our 'X' gets. So, accuracy is still important. So, WHY NOT use the type of rest that prduces the most accurate results? Sure, it takes a little practice and getting used to. Anything that's worth something takes some work and effort. As long as you're willing to work with your boy, he shouldn't have any problem using a drop away and, in the long run, he'll be a better shot for it! I would think you'd want him to be able to reach his full potential as an archer. If he has an interest in target or 3D shooting he's going to have to shoot a dropw away eventually, so why not start him off shooting one? That way he won't have to make a difficult change later.

I hope this helps you make your decision.

I do not mean for anything I said to offend anyone who shoots a WB- it's purely my opinion and no more valid than anyone else's. I don't want to start a battle of words, which so often happens when this subject comes up.

What he said X2

After having said that, my wife just got started in archery, and she plans on being ready to hunt this Fall. Since she's just starting out, I put a WB on her bow to more or less eliminate one big problem for her having to worry about. When that first animal steps out there, I don't want her to be shaking so bad she loses her arra. I personally don't like them but what is posted above is spot on about the WB. If I were teaching a young 'un to shoot, I'd start out with a Drop Zone. My wife's time is just limited now, and I wanted to get her shooting flawlessly as quickly and easily as possible. That's why I put a WB on her bow. BTW she's shooting 3" vanes, and they are starting to get wavy... one of the drawbacks of the WB. I've been told that a hair dryer will straighten them back out or dipping in boiling water...

[asttbe]

My kids and my wife shoot the hostage rest and it is great for them.

I shoot the Trophy Taker FC another good rest that you don't have to worry about the arrow falling off the rest

[Bill]

My hunting partner uses a Whisper Bisquit, I have a Muzzy drop away- both work.

I'd be more concerned with why the arrow is falling off the rest when he uses a release, hence he went to shooting compound/ fingers. There's not anything wrong with shooting compound/ fingers, but almost all compound shooters use a mechanical release, give a much better release of the string without any lateral forces involved.

Whisper Bisquit and mechanical release is a common hunting setup.

[ezed3354]

I had a bad experiance with the WB. I would feel safer with a standard prong type rest or drop away.

[pickles]

Been using the WB since I started bowhunting a few years back. It works well for me. I'm no Michael Waddle or anything but I can hold my own.

I still shoot aluminum arrows! When I started bowhunting I bought a dozen aluminum arrows. Then all my friends who had already been bowhunting for a few years all went and bought carbon arrows. So they gave me all their extra aluminum arrows. I have enough now to last 10 bow seasons. LOL!!!!

Am I the only one that still shoots these slow suckers?